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Old 09-24-2005, 03:30 AM
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I have a few orig paint cars and some of the imperfections on them had to be quite noticeable to the dealer and the orig purchaser ie:runs,sags,blotchy areas,missed areas etc and still they were not addressed.I also work at a dealer and i think people were just not as pickey back then (a car was just a car) transportation ,now- a- days people live in thier cars and are more in tune with them, more than one occasion we had customers flipping out if there,s a damm scratch or dent on the car anywhere!! and they want it fixed before they take delivery, although pretty rare as the quality control is better in the plants the transport and the dealers, remember back then most people bought from the big 3 so the cars sold pretty much reguardless if they had faults or not. But today there is so many companies and models to choose from everyone wants to give u the best possible car for your money...so they say
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Old 09-24-2005, 04:18 AM
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whoa.
I didn't mean to say theres "no way" its 411 miles...I just doubt it personally, or, theres more to the story on this car.

Plus this is only my .02, so no one take it personally k?

In any event, some of the 411 mile importance is obviously forever lost on this car,due to someones meddling.

I'm sure Jack would like to paint and primp parts of his low mile 70 Z, but he knows the original untouched(as much as possible) low miler is the way to go.

Of obvious repaints are all the radiator support top,and rad hold down areas on this Chevelle. Compare to the condition of the phosphated latch plate, which looks worse for wear than the paint areas all while being a tougher coating than the paint?
Also fender to door alignment is way off on both sides, and not even close to how "as delivered" alignment would be, and that along with the color match questions would raise suspicions about whats been done here.

"Maybe" the car has 411 miles on it cause it was wiped out in the front at 411 miles, and sat for years waiting to be repaired, If so, it still only has 411 miles on it which is very cool, but its a different story from the "climate controlled environment one"

You all who mentioned it, may indeed have a point about "pictures vs. in person", as some pictures are and can be a little deceiving, but some things seem glaringly obvious on this car.

I still like and appreciate the car, and its milage, just seems a little fishy.

In the end its always buyer beware as usual anyway...
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Old 09-24-2005, 04:22 AM
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Somebody say '93 Camaro Indy Pace car?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet...576163706QQrdZ1

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Old 09-24-2005, 04:47 AM
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One source for the vacuum plating would be..

www.cvvacuumplaters.com

There are other sources for "general" dash restoration. Just Dashes would be one of several.

It would be my belief that the 4 smaller gauges surrounding the speedometer (turn signals, emerg. brake light, etc.) should not have the vacuum plating for the 70-72 Chevelle SS. Another questonable element for this 410 mile car.
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Old 09-24-2005, 05:05 AM
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One source for the vacuum plating would be..

www.cvvacuumplaters.com

There are other sources for "general" dash restoration. Just Dashes would be one of several.

It would be my belief that the 4 smaller gauges surrounding the speedometer (turn signals, emerg. brake light, etc.) should not have the vacuum plating for the 70-72 Chevelle SS. Another questonable element for this 410 mile car.

[/ QUOTE ]

Know it is so (i.e. no plating) for 70 'velles wrt vacuum plating around those indicators, not sure about 71/72. Hey MR70 - you got your ears on?
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Old 09-24-2005, 06:12 AM
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Well, all things considered, you can't break the guyz testicles (am I allowed to say BALLS in here?) as a car from 1972!!! Come guyz, that's 33 years. Wished I look that good after 33 years! Nice car. Don't think I'd go 30K though. I just paid less than that for my 67 SS427 Impala! AND IT'S GOLD 2!
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I think its pretty neat...if the paint looks that crappy on the lowers from the factory then I guess thats cool...oh and BTW Jeff...I'm thinkin you may be a bit proud of that big car !!! Very nice...
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I can recall in the mid 70's seeing a Plymouth on the show room floor with Factory dual stripes and where it met up in the front of the car the top stripe on the left met up with the bottom stripe on the right!

Also remember that when these cars were at the factory and being delivered they had some accidents. The repairs were done before delivery to the dealer. So some panels off color could also have resulted from that.
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Old 09-24-2005, 07:14 PM
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Somebody say '93 Camaro Indy Pace car?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet...576163706QQrdZ1


[/ QUOTE ] My point exactly...in 20 years people will be saying no way and but there are lots of cars "tucked away" like that.
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:54 PM
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One source for the vacuum plating would be..

www.cvvacuumplaters.com

Thanks for the lead...wow,$605 + shipping to do the dash bezels air vents,and the center "Chevelle" emblem!

Back to the 410 mile time capsule:

I especially liked the post from the painter w/30- yrs. experience at the assembly point.He did shed some light on the possible things that could have happen.I can believe that people weren't as picky as they are now...to a point.
The comment about most cars purchased from the Big 3 back then rings true and I think quality was probably more of a "take it or leave it" proposition.I think we all know quality control wasn't what it is now.

I am in the automotive business and just wanted to chip in my .02 as to the how the manufacturers handle these problems now.Most have HUGE staging areas where gazillions of vehicles of various makes are unloaded from the railcars and are held until being sorted and transported to the dealers.All kinds of damage happens here or during transportation to them..These staging areas have their own body shops and paint booths.
They do repairs all the time and if it is under a certain dollar amount ($500 I believe),they do not have to disclose it to the dealer.I have seen some of the worst repairs you can imagine and then I have seen repairs that were hardly noticeable unless you were told.I have chased down water leaks in brand new cars and traced them back to the staging areas only to learn shoddy repairs were made there.

This stuff happens all the time and I bet it happened even more so way back when...
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