1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked Shell

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doesnt the full frame cars have the vin stamped ontop of the frame under the driver seat area..only visible with a mirror???

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Not all full frame cars have the vin stamped into the frame. A couple of years ago I ran into a vin/body swap on a 70 Chevelle SS454 that a friend purchased. The frame was not correct and neither was the body. The hidden vins were not there, or least not in the locations they were supposed to be. The ones on the frame had been ground off. According to the NICB the numbers were in different locations from 68-72 and there were a couple of years that there were not any numbers on the frame!

This hobby needs to police itself and not allow reproduction of trim tags, window stickers, build sheets, or vin #'s, and yes vin's are being done for the early cars, you just have to ask the right people. Once the hobby does not accept or even allow for these guys to do business then can we start to accept a car at face value. It is still buyer beware though..................RatPack..............