State of Hobby

[Jeff H]

Look at it this way, if you go to a car show, how many owners cover the VIN of their car at the show? Usually, they also have a form with their name and town written on it. So it's pretty much public knowledge at that point. I can see the argument of people doing a search to find where you live and wait for you to go out and try to steal your car. I'm going to need a decent security setup for my garage when my JL8 is finally finished but I haven't really thought about it yet. I don't know that lists of VIN's needs to be published, but if there is a definite resource to send a request to then that should suffice. I agree with Pete's argument against posting VIN's for car's that are not found for his reason and for the reason that someone may have spent a lot of time and money developing a lead on a car to suddenly have that knowledge given out to everyone for nothing. If Joel Rosen would give out his information to someone like Ed to allow Ed to be the person to check for a possible BM car along with COPO's and Yenkos. $1500 to find out your car isn't a BM car is a lot of money that could be going into restoring a car. One last thing, with the new Privacy act that was passed last year, making private information available could be illegal as well. I work for a mortgage servicing company and we must protect information at all costs now. That could be why GM of Canada can't release info like they used to.

[Rat_Pack]

Pete makes a valid point, list only the "found" cars and their current owners names with their permission. Do not list anything that would help verify the cars otherwise such as build dates, selling dealers, color & trim combinations, transmission type, etc...............RatPack................

[JBB]

Why don't we have someone like Mr. Cuneen
collect information on a private basis, and anyonw wishing to verify a car can call him or someone on that level who can authenticate these cars. Put them in a class,
like this:?
Platinum class: Original Window sticker, P.O.P., Dealership verification, owner history to new.
Gold class: P.O.P., Dealership verification
some owner history.
silver class: C.O.P.O. connection nows that vin to be a C.O.P.O./Yenko/ect. No doc's or
owner history
All this information is still private, but kept in the capable hands of someone like Mr. Cuneen or the like. This info is NOT to be released to any one except the chosen authority, or back to the present owner. If the vehicle is for sale, the seller can request a release of such info., if so deemed possible

[Kurt S]

Looks like we're talking something on the order of Steve McCorry's site:
http://www.mindspring.com/~mccorry/registry.html
Don't need to include that level of detail, but it's a good example.

[69motion]

ed i think posting the vins is a great idea if all the vins were known then there would be less clones around jeff

[Ed Cunneen]

Thank you all for your emails and comments.

I will post only vins of known cars with owners that have registered with me. Only COPO's with trim tags that agree with our records will be posted. Please check with the www.copo.com site for ZL-1 vins. I have just revised this list. I will continue this approach on the other cars in the near future.

[68l30]

Pete,thank you!That was my point exactly.How it can be done as far creating the paperwork for a new VIN,I don't know.But,if you can do a POP and other documents this couldn't be to far off in the future.Crooks are crooks,anything to make a buck.......

Steve

[Edited by 68l30 (03-11-2002 at 11:09 AM).]

[Norm reynolds]

Thanks Ed this is a start and can be a big help in tring to control the madness of what is and not real
it seems sad that 13 cars are destroyed hope the trim tags went with the cars as not to be used on a clone
Norm

[T Billigen]

Has anyone checked the COPO Connection site? Ed has started putting vins and names with the Camaros and Chevelles!

[MikeA]

Why would something like this be for sale?

Nova Title

Mike






[Edited by MikeA (03-21-2002 at 07:37 AM).]