Motion Nova????

[69LM1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: enio45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can confirm the above and correction to my previous email - just received this from dan ....

Kevin Suydams email. Its 35-327 Wallace Chevrolet Linden NJ. 35='s Newark NJ zone. Anyway the original owner Fredy Calas lived the next town over in Elizabeth NJ on Jersey Street off Broad street. Elizabeth/Linden were approx 44 road miles to Baldwin Long Island where Motion was </div></div>wouldn't Joel remember the name Freddy Calais or any old time Newark street racers who might still be alive remember Freddy's car.you'd think the motion mechanic would help vouch for it? </div></div>

I *think* I remember the last time I was on the phone with Dan, about a month ago, that he did actually get in touch with the mechanic and that he remembered the\a car. Can't remember if it was from a description or a photo or the details or if Dan was able to meet up with him. I'll email Dan and see.

Is Dan permanatly banned? It would be better to hear it all from him. We can all be a little off from time to time, especially me.

RichPern

[K code Mustang]

Central Jersey is still in business. I was just there about 3 weeks ago, I needed new flywheel bolts for a small block chevy project. They are one of the last true speed shops around, step inside and it's like walking back in time ! They have a wall there with equipment, trophies, tools, parts and gauges from the fifties and sixties...a true time warp.

[njsteve]

John, are they still at the same address?

[K code Mustang]

Steve, my mistake...I was talking about California speed and sport which is in New Brunswick. I guess all the years of burnt rubber and cam 2 exposure must be taking it's toll ! California speed and sport was established in 1956 and is still in operation. The old Central jersey building is now a nail salon and a pizza place... I don't know if Dianne is still there but I guess you can still get paint (on your nails) and grease (on your pizza). I would bet that the Wickbergs made a trip or two to CS&amp;S for parts for the Charger.

[69LM1]

I *think* Dan told me that the mechanic remembers the car well, not sure if he notarized anything though. I know the guy was up there in age from what I remember Dan telling me. I think the mechanic is on the outs with JR as well?

Heck, look at Roger D, the orginal owner of a DH COPO, with his original paperwork that he cannot get &quot;certified&quot; on by the DH group.

Who you run with can mean the difference in this hobby, and I can genuinely say that Dan is an honest guy.

I agree that in the right hands, the car would probably get paper.

RichP

[Hemicolt]

Are you implying that we might live in a society where certain groups of people look out for each other and shun others that don't make the grade...lol
Really though, very good point. The world shouldn't be like that.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69LM1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I *think* Dan told me that the mechanic remembers the car well, not sure if he notarized anything though. I know the guy was up there in age from what I remember Dan telling me. I think the mechanic is on the outs with JR as well?

Heck, look at Roger D, the orginal owner of a DH COPO, with his original paperwork that he cannot get &quot;certified&quot; on by the DH group.

Who you run with can mean the difference in this hobby, and I can genuinely say that Dan is an honest guy.

I agree that in the right hands, the car would probably get paper.

RichP </div></div>

[motionwannabe]

Tracy , you are 100% correct. The world shouldn't be like that.

[Charley Lillard]

Can we stop with the Joel bashing. If Joel didn't have any docs on the Chevelle but later it had them it could be that someone did more digging and found a prior owner etc. if you have facts, state them but don't put out stories that some guy said etc.

[ronebee]

I worked with Joel Documenting the Moray GT when I owned it, was it easy? No. did he say it was one of his right away? Nope, But when I found the guy who painted it the wrong color originally ( A bass boat green metallic, he sprayed the yellow over grey primer, DUH!) and when I found the guy who put the interior in the Car (Dondee, good guy, still in business) he remembered the car. Listen, I just turned 50, there are things I can't remember I did yesterday, and when I talk to people about, uhm, &quot;events&quot; and stunts I pulled in the 80's and they say, &quot;Ron! Do you remember when you did that?&quot; I can honestly say it takes a couple of days to jog my memory. Joel is a Good Cat and a legend. Honestly, chasing down info on this car was AWESOME! It was like openning up the Hands of Time and peeking back into these folks lives..I have two cars now I'm trying to document, one I believe to be a motion Car, but I wouldn't approach Joel with it yet, I don't have enough info yet....(then I gotta figure out this 68 roadster that I think is a yenko car, but that's another story)...I agree with Charlie, I think Joel is a good cat, I enjoy the time that I have spent with him and the stories, The Stories! Wow....

[NovaMob03]

Ron, what you've just described is really the crux of the matter when documenting a real Motion Perf built car....and that is that JR apparently did not keep all invoices for work they performed, but relies on photographs, NICB or perhaps input from others in his shop that may remember a particular car.
It also appears that, at least once, money has been sent for possible confirmation (Rich's Camaro) &amp; there was no response (I'm assuming the check was cashed). It's also apparent that at least 1 car got a verbal 'no', then later confirmed and I understand how that can be possible. But, very inconsistent and particularly for that seller
It's a question of the factual 'paper trail' evidence vs present day photographic/hearsay evidence and JR's memory and paying for letter printed on his stationary...perform your due diligence, know that real documentation matters and caveat emptor

Also heard thru the grapevine that the Iowa/ebay Chevelle with all the Motion evidence got a maybe letter and not a full confirmation...what does that really mean [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]