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For your information Jason, I did have the opportunity to buy this car as several people did. I knew the scoop on this car long befory bergy did and had the opportunity to buy it. No negativity, just facts. Car is a rebody no matter how you slice and dice it.
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BTW, what exactly do you meen the VIN from the donor body needs to be cleaned up? Not sure what you meen by that.
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If anyone knows any details about this car - tell us more! Everyone in the community would be interested in hearing about it. I'm not one to make stuff up - I'm just posting what the car reveals upon close inspection. This car even has a 13/16 sway bar that's been in place for a long time. - I can't get photobucket to poat pics for some reason, but I'll be happy to send them to someone for posting. Also, it has a Yenko dash cluster that has the SW tach holes still in it - obviously very old drill holes with part of the impression from the SW base. I'm not an expert like many of you, but I have owned a few copos so I know my way around a little bit.
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I think I have said enough. The car simply does not have the important items that one would look for in an original COPO car. Car may have a couple of bolt on items from the original car but thats about it.
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Come on Tom - there's no need to be so mysterious. Why end the discussion with "said enough"? If there is more data to put on the record, please add it. If you go down the copo check list - this car is just missing the firewall attributes. All that I'm saying is, why in the world would someone rebody a Yenko using a totaled (with a swarn certified statement) body? If you're hesitant to discuss this within the parameters of this forum, you can PM me. These cars are too important to dismiss so cavalierly.
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I have said all there is to say. No cowl induction piercing, no mounting holes for the relay, no hidden vins to match the Yenko vin in the dash, no 427/425, no original muncie, no BE, no cowl tag, etc. I think that its absolutely clear as to what the car is and Im not sure I can lend anymore info. It is what it is, a rebody. Nothing more nothing less. As long as it is represented as such, I see no issue. It may have a dash cluster and a subframe from an original car but thats about it. Hardly enough to make a real Yenko from. If you want others peoples opinion as to what the car is, just ask. Not being elusive or cavalier, just stating the facts. So, just state the car is a rebody and move on.
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I think that I'm beginning to agree with Jason - if it's OK with you Tom, I'll continue to pursue the car's history and complete my due dilligence. I will have a complete, continual ownership record of the car (Yenko) from new I'll let the whole community know what I find out and back it up with photographs, names and sworn statements. It's way too early to put this to bed.
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Good luck to you bergy...
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Interesting discussion indeed. This will follow the ongoing dispute as that what is a rebody and what is original. At what point does a car lose its original identity? What key components does it take to still retain this identity and what reasonable exceptions can be made to allow the car to retain its original personality.
I think each car needs to be looked at based on its own merits. For example, with this car if you have the whole history on the car and one of the previous owners will provide a statement that the car was wrecked and the firewall was replaced in my opinion I would still consider this a genuine car. If it was found to be that the vin was just transferred over to a completely different complete body than I would say it has lost its identity. This is like ZL1 #61 - didnt that car have a completely replaced cowl, firewall and lower firewall without matching hidden vins but still wears the original vin? Isn't there a credible and documented history to back this and therefore the car can still be considered genuine? Lets all let history tell the story and set the stage for this one. With only 200 original Yenko cars - even the mere fragment of one deserves to have every avenue explored and be given the utmost possible consideration to be reconstructed. |
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First off, I don't know the history of this car. That said, why do you think the original Yenko was wrecked. It is just as possible that the firewall was cut out for racing, etc. Yes, it is also just as possible that the original car was rotting in a field somewhere and the VIN was yanked and put on another shell. But, if the latter was the case, why would they make a Z/28 clone out of the car. It is my hypothesis that the car was raced, the firewall cut out, the Yenko identity was lost and it was repaired with another firewall for street use. Again, only a hypothesis.
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