russo and steel chop job camaro copo

[Les Quam]

I am essentially a Ford guy with only one Camaro in my collection so I don't know how this COPO connection stuff works? So if I understand this a Camaro with a COPO connection paperwork is not necessarily inspected by Ed C.? But is rather only "VIN relative" in that the particular Camaro has a correct VIN for a COPO Camaro???? I am confused how this works in Chevy world? For Mopars Galen will decode a car for you which is easy to understand that it means that it was not physically inspected by him? A physical inspection by Galen is a physical inspection no confusion there and Galens inspections include casting date codes as well as part numbers.

I have seen some Chevy inspection paperwork from a Jerry Mcniesh (probably not correct spelling) but the inspection report generated for a purported LS6 Chevelle failed to have any casting date codes to verify any of the important parts such as the block for instance were built before the data plate said the car was built? So I couldn't understand how the car was considered or certified to have it's original block when the report failed or Jerry wasn't paid enough or perhaps not asked to get the casting date codes????

[flyingn]

my opinion. I would *expect* that such an auction house as R&S would do their homework before accepting the car. It would seem that it is their responsibility not the buyer.. I mean why are you paying such prices for cars thru R&S (who has an excellent reputation) if they do not at least check into them first. I hope everything works out for the OP and R&S.. Im sure no one wants to be in either position..

[firstgenaddict]

There is just no way for an auction house to check every car... it really is not their responsibility.

For arguments sake lets say that the auction house checks every car.
Say they check the hidden vins... and they match. Do they stop there? Does that guarantee the vins from another car were not welded in?

Who is to say how much time and effort they should go through?
If you open that can of worms I can not see where it would end. (especially once the Lawyers become involved)

In the end the buyer is responsible for checking the vehicle over, and if the buyer is not knowledgeable then find someone such as Jerry Macneish to inspect the car. (his fees will be money well spent and on a 100k car his fees couldn't be more than 2% of purchase price)

[427king]

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It would seem that it is their responsibility not the buyer..

[/ QUOTE ] Thats exactly why some owners bring thier cars to auction and try and get people to certify thier cars, so they can pass the buck when the car is discovered to be a rebody or a perfect clone. No auction house or individual has ever removed heater boxes and sanded firewalls back 3 feet on 100 point restored cars,not realistic. Years ago the NCRS got smart to this and made a waiver that even if a car got 100 poits it didnt mean it [top flight certificate] could be used as "documentation" or proof of authenticity,rebody,restamp etc even though they gave 100% on a pad stamp,

[real-muscle-1]

I DO THINK THE SELLER OF THE CAMARO DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE RE-BODY, THIS CAMARO HAS BEEN SOLD LIKE THIS FOR SOME TIME NOW AND I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT PHYSICALLY DISCOVER THE PROBLEM AND WITH IN 24 HOURS,I AM SURE THA ALL CLASSIC CAR AUCTIONS CAN SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY AND HAVE A PRO LOOK @ ALL THE CARS AND INVESTIGATE THE ONES THAT LOOK FISHY, BECAUSE I CAN... I GUESS IF THE AUCTIONS OR COLLECTORS PAY ME I FOUND A NEW JOB.......PETE LIMA

[sYc]

Pete, first of all, how about taking the "caps lock" off!

Second, as others have said, with 100s of cars going though their auction, no way could they inspect even a small portion of the cars. And if they tried, how hard, and costly, would it be to find a real expert for every make and model crossing the block?

If the seller did not know it was a re-body, makes matters even harder for the auction houses to police things.

[real-muscle-1]

manhein auctions sells around 10,000 to 15,000 cars a day and they check all of them.......with the money a classic car auction makes they should have a pro like they have..............this is for you (((DREW!)) I WANT MY CHECK BACK!!

[RM Schimel]

Caveat emptor - Just ask Greg Brady!! Ones man’s expert is another man’s fool. Anyone can tell you what you want to hear for a price. We attorneys have been doing this since the beginning of time.

[427TJ]

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Caveat emptor - Just ask Greg Brady!!

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HA! That black '56 Chevy convert was cool!

[427king]

Isn't it a shame how 99% of the lawyers give the whole profession a bad name.