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Hopefully some of you guys can get pics of the documentation and post them on the site, They'd be great to see !!
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Never say never with GM! [/ QUOTE ] i think that statement can be assessed to any of the manufacturers.
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The comments and thoughts to follow are strictly personal opinions and not based on any known facts regarding the cars mentioned in this thread or any thread and to be clear have absolutely nothing to do w/ GM, it's dealers, suppliers and associates, this site or any site's owners, moderators, users or members including those resembling any of these mentioned...living, dead or otherwise..
Unless proven beyond a doubt something is not so, please always consider the cars in this thread are exactly what they are reputed and stated to be!. ![]() A factory L89 Nova as we're all hoping can be proven was built and/or exists is a car that left the plant w/ L89 equipment installed and operational including original factory applied L89 suffix and specific vehicle Vin stampings.. Not to be confused w/ cars delivered to the dealer w/ factory supplied L89 equipment in the car but not installed (even if it was possible) or dealer L89 equipped cars delivered w/ L89 equipment installed or supplied loose whether an original GM or Dealer window sticker includes the L89 option or not (even though we'd like to see one of these too!).. GM's statements written or verbal, past or present have nothing to do w/ the possibility of cars actually being built w/ or w/o specific equipment installed...as proven in the past w/ '68 Z28 ragtops, ZL1 'Vettes etc, etc.. Like others have mentioned, if either of these two cars are truly genuine, why not simply and proudly lay the facts out...especially before the resto?. On the black car resto'd by the Legendary brothers, genuine or not could the clandestine way things seem to have progressed perhaps have anything to do w/ who the owner is...thinking real car that some would be suspect of just because who happened to own it?. A worse thought is could it be at all possible the Dupont car be a red herring to in some way legitimize the black car...or just simple innocence of the timing the Dupont car appeared available for sale?. For more reading enjoyment on this topic; The car at Legendary: http://www.legendarymotorcar.com/wor...s/l89_nova.htm Last years's L89 Nova thread here: https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat...0&fpart=all I truly hope one or both of the Novas mentioned in this thread truly are and always have been genuine factory built L89 cars and not just enough old information and documents supplied to now deem them so, even though this may not be possible?. Again all strictly personal opinions and thoughts here.. I've tried my best to lay this out as so, so no flaming please!. ![]() ~ Pete I really do want to be an L89 Nova believer...forever!. |
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If the owner's laid the facts out for all to see then others would know what the docs look like. Then other cars may "appear". I can understand where they are coming from. Why prove to non-buyers that the car is real. If they want to see the docs they can see them in person with cash in fist I would think.
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I don't believe that showing the paperwork for an L89 Nova will create dumpload of fake L89 Novas, as it's only an option difference that won't look any different than the option on a Camaro's paperwork - save for the option code suffix letters that nobody seems to have a handle on anyway.
However, some people just don't like to show this kind of stuff, some people still cover up their vin at car shows, etc.. I don't get it, but hey, everyone is different. Like someone on the Nova site stated, the only person who the owner has to show the paperwork to is the guy writing the check!
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I was there on Saturday morning and the L89 Nova was being judged. Does anyone know the outcome?
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No disrespect to the VF judging but even a Gold Spinner does little to verify the authenticity of a car like this.
Nice car and the owner is easy to talk with, but I agree with Marlin. If the owner doesn't want to share the paperwork it's his choice, and I support him. Now,.......... if I'm a buyer.............. different story.
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I talked with the owner on Friday while he was waxing the car. He said that the heads are "074", and dated correct for the car and engine's build date. I'm confused on that. Wouldn't they have to be "842" in order to make the 11.25 to 1 compression ratio???
I meant to go back and ask him more about it, but got busy and never talked to him about it again. |
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I talked with the owner on Friday while he was waxing the car. He said that the heads are "074", and dated correct for the car and engine's build date. I'm confused on that. Wouldn't they have to be "842" in order to make the 11.25 to 1 compression ratio??? I meant to go back and ask him more about it, but got busy and never talked to him about it again. [/ QUOTE ] I was confused about the same Issue......I don't believe that GM had a Piston combination for the 396 with Open Chamber Heads...........Hummmmmmm!!!!!! 842's would be correct.......But someone here that is "Smarter" than me could "Chime" in with additional info......074's make you wonder........ Ken
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Ken, since you already have a "real" L89 Nova, it doesn't make sense to question your analysis
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