Engine Oil and Muscle Cars

[Verne_Frantz]

"Our new product is engineered to address all of these situations with no compromise."

So this thread was a marketing test??

[frank23]

Vern - I started this discussion to see if a need existed. The product is still in the planning stages. I chose this website because it seems to be fair and unbiased. So if you call this a marketing test, sobeit. This product is being developed because I am sick and tired of having to add supplements to my own high performance and antique vehicles. Unfortunately, I can't just have a case or two made for myself. I thought, and still think, that this is a marketable product for all vintage automobile owners. And should I make a few dollars doing it? If it fills a need in our hobby, what's wrong with that? Someone has to get it done. Regards -- Frank

[Steve Shauger]

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"Our new product is engineered to address all of these situations with no compromise."

So this thread was a marketing test??

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Geez Verne, Frank is up front about his intent, outlines the weaknesses of our current over the counter oils, and seeks our feedback as to our interest and viability of this proposed product. You can call it anything you want, but he is at least attempting to remedy the situation with a new product and is asking for our input. You have a problem with that???

[Verne_Frantz]

Not a problem I just didn't realize it until the very end. It caught me by surprise because I thought it was a general query about bringing back "old" oil for our old cars.
I would gladly be part of the market for new oil with the best additive package available.

Verne

[ANDY M]

Howard found the tread about oil that I was looking for. There was another link in that thread that I was thinking about, from the Ferarri guys, that bored me to sleep, but might be useful to Frank.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/faq...=haas_articles
If you scroll down to Chapter 6, he makes his recommendations for which oil he deems is best for the applications that he outlines. Interesting to compare his choices with the other link that shows the pictures of how certain oils performed in lab testing. I switched to Rotella because, as I learned here, Comp Cams issued a tech bulletin that spec'd it for use with their products.
I don't doubt his research, but as it is said about doctors, for every 2 doctors you will get 3 opinions.

[juliosz]

If you have a couple of hours to burn, check out the NCRS archives as this subject comes up every couple of days. Here's a link to one of the better discussions: Oil Discussion. Some of these guys have really done their homework on this which has made me perfectly comfortable continuing the use of Rotella 15/40.

[P.J.]

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We discussed this oil before so take another look
http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf
PJ

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Further to this oil testing . In 1968 at a car club meeting of the Weston High Performance racing club meetings I invited The representatives of the Bardall products. They used the same methods for oil testing .After testing many oil brands with the same results they used Bardall B1 additive on the bearing. The bearing with the Bardall B1 additive
had amazingly no wear on the bearing even with 3 times the load on the bearing. I have been using it since.However
they cautioned on using it for break in as the rings would not seat.
PJ

[PeteLeathersac]

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We discussed this oil before so take another look
http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf
PJ

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Further to this oil testing . In 1968 at a car club meeting of the Weston High Performance racing club meetings I invited The representatives of the Bardall products. They used the same methods for oil testing .After testing many oil brands with the same results they used Bardall B1 additive on the bearing. The bearing with the Bardall B1 additive
had amazingly no wear on the bearing even with 3 times the load on the bearing. I have been using it since.However
they cautioned on using it for break in as the rings would not seat.
PJ

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Cool story PJ.. Was Wallie Branston there too...he was the driver of the 'Barhdall Rocket' that used to race at the CNE track and others?. He's a great old fella who was also the Starter/Flagman at Mosport in the 60's and is in the Cdn. Motorsports Hall-o-Fame..

Do you remember that Canadian oil-less drive test they did years ago...maybe was even done at Mosport also may have used '66/67 Chevelles/Beaumonts??. Either way, they filled the crankcases w/ whatever oils they were testing, ran 'em then drained them and ran them again to see how far they'd go without oil...forget if they supposedly drained the filter too?. Anyway, some went waaaay further than you'd ever expect and I always suspected some foolishness went on as regardless of remaining protection on the surfaces, the lifters should've collapsed?.

~ Pete

[P.J.]

Interesting, I don't remember the reps only the test. I could not beleive it when they put water in place of the oil then ran the bearing test . the bearing seased imediatly,then they cleaned the bearing and put water in the tray then a few dops of Bardall ran forever with no wear ont the bearing.
PJ

[gb70]

Vavoline has a racing oil which uses the materials that other brands are taking out, the zinc and magniseium.
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...61759_-1_10461