one of one RAIV 69 GTO conv??

[Stefano]

I got my info from Jim Mattison/PHS. Jim said that the Champaign color was unique for a GTO and that it was the only RA IV Rag top he was aware of in that color combo and that it may indeed have been the only one produced.

Nothing different than what Galen does for Mopars Color/Options.

[442w30]

Well, I was being facetious, but Galen doesn't make those claims. Those claims come from his registry or from magazines that don't know what they're talking about.

There's a Champaigne RAIV ragtop at the Russo and Steele auction in Scottsdale coming up. Unless Jim goes through all 40 invoices and finds out how many were trimmed like this car, I don't believe any of it.

[sYc]

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Well, I was being facetious, but Galen doesn't make those claims. Those claims come from his registry or from magazines that don't know what they're talking about.

There's a Champaigne RAIV ragtop at the Russo and Steele auction in Scottsdale coming up. Unless Jim goes through all 40 invoices and finds out how many were trimmed like this car, I don't believe any of it.

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What a coincidence, about 7 posts back Stefano posted..”We have a very nice RA IV rag top 4 speed GTO, possibly one of one color combo going to Arizona for auction! “

[mockingbird812]

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Well, I was being facetious, but Galen doesn't make those claims. Those claims come from his registry or from magazines that don't know what they're talking about.

There's a Champaigne RAIV ragtop at the Russo and Steele auction in Scottsdale coming up. Unless Jim goes through all 40 invoices and finds out how many were trimmed like this car, I don't believe any of it.

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Galen will "make those claims" if you ask. This, of course, is based on factual info he has retrieved from the Chrysler records. He can pull from his database drivetrain, color, option combos and if you request a "page 2" to your Chrysler Registry letter, he will spell out the rarity of your car in writing.

For the record, this car makes me...

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Well, I was being facetious, but Galen doesn't make those claims. Those claims come from his registry or from magazines that don't know what they're talking about.

There's a Champaigne RAIV ragtop at the Russo and Steele auction in Scottsdale coming up. Unless Jim goes through all 40 invoices and finds out how many were trimmed like this car, I don't believe any of it.

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What a coincidence, about 7 posts back Stefano posted..”We have a very nice RA IV rag top 4 speed GTO, possibly one of one color combo going to Arizona for auction! “

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SO, THE "ANTIQUE GOLD" ON EBAY IS 1 OF 1
AND THE "CHAMPAGNE" at Russo and Steele is 1 of 1`?

sorry, but I tell the kids there are no stupid questions.

anyone have a pic of the "very nice" car going to russo and steele?
Chris

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I may have answered my own question
http://www.russoandsteele.com/collec...a_iv/6877.html

"Pontiac Historical has told us that this may be the only GTO RAIV sold in this striking color combination."

[sYc]

Here you go.

GTO

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so, the worn looking original on Ebay demands $650,000. Where will the nicer car start and end? any guesses?

[njsteve]

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Well, I was being facetious, but Galen doesn't make those claims. Those claims come from his registry or from magazines that don't know what they're talking about.

There's a Champaigne RAIV ragtop at the Russo and Steele auction in Scottsdale coming up. Unless Jim goes through all 40 invoices and finds out how many were trimmed like this car, I don't believe any of it.

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Galen will "make those claims" if you ask. This, of course, is based on factual info he has retrieved from the Chrysler records. He can pull from his database drivetrain, color, option combos and if you request a "page 2" to your Chrysler Registry letter, he will spell out the rarity of your car in writing.

For the record, this car makes me...

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Unlike Pontiac which retained its actual buildsheet invoices, Chrysler retained only production percentage records, which Galen has. This is where the novices get into trouble when they attempt advanced statistical analysis where they shouldn't. For example, if they hypothetically built 20,000 Road Runners and the records say that 1% were built with a hemi, that would give you 200 cars. If the records also say that they built 20,000 Road Runners and 1% were painted Panther Pink, also resulting in 200 cars, you would NOT then take 1% of the 200 hemi car number to extrapolate out that 2 cars were Panther Pink hemi Road Runners. It just doesn't work that way, but unfortunately people see numbers and go crazy.

Here is the type of addendum that Galen attaches to his records: This is the one for my Charger. Of the 112 built according to the production percentage records, 50% were four speeds and 50% were automatics resulting in 56/56 even split. Oddly enough he has found records of 56 cars still existing for his registry: 1/2 of the entire production. Of those known cars, mine is "one of one" according to him. Theoretically there could be 29 other hemi four speeds out there that are also R/T-SE combination option cars in red but it's quite unlikely. In his 56 car record he has 15 other hemi R/T-SE Chargers, which works out to about a 26% rate of R/T-SE to R/T ratio. So if I wanted to extrapolate I would say that 26% of the 112 should be R/T-SE hemi Chargers or about 28 cars total. As you can see you could do anything with the the numbers. So based on my faulty assumptions, start hunting: there are 13 more duplicates of my car out there somewhere in barns, garages, brothel parking lots...

[flyingn]

Don White!! Oh yeaaaaaa Thats our guy!!!!

Don-- tell us the story on that car? I don't remember you having it. But then again you owned so many cars I lost track!!


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I may have answered my own question
http://www.russoandsteele.com/collec...a_iv/6877.html

"Pontiac Historical has told us that this may be the only GTO RAIV sold in this striking color combination."

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