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Old 12-24-2006, 04:19 AM
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That B-25 of your grandfather is I think a model B-25H. They had the bombadier compartment blanked out and had 8-50 cals mounted in the nose. Plus 2-50 cals on pods on each side of the aircraft. These saw extensive service in the Pacific against Japaneese convoys. According to what I read, the forward fire power could nearly cut a Japaneese transport in half. Then after turning the vessel into swiss cheese.....you drop a few 500lb bombs to finish the job.....
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Plus 2-50 cals on pods on each side of the aircraft.

According to what I read, the forward fire power could nearly cut a Japaneese transport in half.

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I can't remember off hand what caliber it was (75mm, 90mm, ?) but I remember by grandfather talking about the HUGE single gun they tried in the nose for a while...said when it fired that it had such a recoil that it would feel like it briefly stopped the plane in the air!

Simply old school trial and error stuff, but it's amazing the amount of technology that came about in those few years...just prior to the start of WW2, if I recall, the US military was only the 14th largest in the world!
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75mm cannon. Crews said that they felt like the plane went backwards when the cannon was fired.

Another weapon against the Japanese supply vessels.
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:10 PM
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Here is a picture of myself (at 15) and some friends after backpacking approximately 15 miles up a mountain to reach a WWII B-17 that crashed in heavy snow during a training exercise. Interesting items I found were an airmen's leather helmet, a boot and the radio. The airplane missed clearing this mountain by less then 100 feet and the remains scattered over 200 yards with the largest piece we found pictured behind us.
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Cool pics and story Rick...where and when was the approx. crash date of this B-17? .

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I don't recall exactly but I think it was somewhere around 1943. There is a plaque at the base of "Bomber Muntain" in the Big Horn Mountain Range in Wyoming. You would never know by the photos but the wreckage is located at I believe 13,000. I have other photos taken looking down on Lake Florence and based on those you can tell it is VERY high up.

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The wreckage is still there. Here are some recent pics I found on the web. http://www.thebackpacker.com/picture...jz65anbj,1.php
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Just found this on the internet, sort of goes with this thread.
This looks like genuine film footage from the WW 2 era. Also gives new meaning to the "wingman" term.





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