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Old 12-23-2002, 02:42 AM
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Belair ok he was part of Red Camilos pit crew with !no big thing!.
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Old 12-23-2002, 02:50 AM
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After the Hemi dart he went with the injected Nova called "Grumpafoot"
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Old 12-23-2002, 03:17 AM
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I checked my copy of "The Hurst Heritage." It says the 1968 Hurst conversion cars were built at Demmer in Lansing Mich. Cars and Concepts was founded in 1976 and bought out Hurst in 1982.
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Old 12-23-2002, 03:56 AM
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Joe, the Hurst Olds cars were built in Lansing as Oldsmobile was in Lansing which made it covienient for the conversions, however Chrysler was based in Detroit and Brighton just happens to be halfway betwwen Detroit and Lansing, the Darts were built in brighton at Hurst Performance, which may or may not have been a subsiderary of Demmer, but they were definatly built in Brighton. You are correct about the rise of C&amp;C and the fall of Hurst, they were a few miles apart and the founder of C&amp;C was the fprmer VP of Hurst, Dick Chrysler, who had a better product and thus the end of Hurst. Dick Chrysler eventually sold the company to the employees and went on to become a Congressman. Don Leith who was the president of Hurst still lives in the Brighton/Howell area and also has one of the original Darts from the Brighton plant. My old car is in Howell belonging to a friend of mine, Norbert. Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 12-23-2002, 10:19 AM
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anyone considered the 69 yenko 427 nova?
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Old 12-23-2002, 11:57 AM
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Here is one list The list shows the car as it came out of the box no mods done I was surprise to see the ZL-1 did not do so good out of the box This discussion could go on till the end of time Every one thinks he has the fastest car .A lot has to do with the driver , weather conditions, how the car is tuned, AND luck
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1 1997 Viper GTS 12.05@116 V10 450 six-speed 3.07 MM 8/97
2 1966 427 Cobra 12.20@118 427 8V 425 four-speed 3.54 CC 11/65
3 1990 ZR1 Corvette [email protected] 350 LT5 375 six-speed 3.45 MT 4/90
4 1966 L72 Corvette 12.80@112 427 L72 425 four-speed 3.36 CD 11/65
5 1969 Roadrunner [email protected] 440 Six Pack 390 four-speed 4.10 SS 6/69
6 1997 Hurst/Firebird [email protected] 350 350 automatic 3.42 MCR 4/5 97
7 1970 Hemi Cuda [email protected] 426 Hemi 425 four-speed 3.54 CC 11/69
8 1992 Viper RT/10 13.10@108 488 V10 400 six-speed 3.07 CD 7/92
9 1970 Chevelle SS454 [email protected] 454 LS6 450 four-speed 3.55 CC 11/69
10 1969 Camaro [email protected] 427 ZL1 430 four-speed 4.10 HC 6/69
11 1997 Corvette [email protected] 350 LS-1 345 six-speed 3.42 MT 5/97
12 1997 SLP Camaro SS [email protected] 350 LT4 330 six-speed 3.42 MT 2/97
13 1990 Pontiac Firehawk 13.20@107 350 350 six-speed 3.54 CD 6/91
14 1968 Corvette 13.30@108 427 L71 435 four-speed 3.70 HC 5/68
15 1970 Road Runner [email protected] 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 SS 12/69
16 1970 Buick GS Stage I [email protected] 455 Stage I 360 automatic 3.64 MT 1/70
17 1996 Camaro Z28 SS [email protected] 350 LT-1 310 six-speed 3.42 MCR F/M 96
18 1969 Charger 500 13.48@109 426 Hemi 425 four-speed 4.10 HR 2/69
19 1973 Trans Am [email protected] 455 SD 310 automatic 3.42 HR 6/73
20 1969 Corvette [email protected] 427 L88 430 automatic(?) 3.36 HR 4/69
21 1969 Super Bee [email protected] 440 Six Pack 390 automatic 4.10 HR 8/69
22 1969 Boss 429 Mustang 13.60@106 Boss 429 375 four-speed 3.91 HC 9/69
23 1970 Challenger R/T [email protected] 440 Six Pack 390 automatic 3.23 CC 11/69
24 1970 Torino Cobra [email protected] 429 SCJ 370 automatic 3.91 SS 3/70
25 1968 Biscayne 13.65@105 427 L72 425 four-speed 4.56 SS 4/68
26 1995 Mustang Cobra R [email protected] 351 300 five-speed 3.27 MCR A/S 95
27 1964 Polara 500 [email protected] 426 4V 365 four-speed 3.23 HC 2/64
28 1996 CorvetteGS [email protected] 350 LT-4 330 six-speed 3.45 RT 2/96
29 1969 GTX [email protected] 440 4V 375 automatic 4.10 MT 1/69
30 1987 Buick GNX 13.70@102 231 Turbo V6 300 automatic 3.42 HR 4/87
31 1969 Dart 440 13.71@105 440 4V 375 automatic 3.55 CC 5/69
32 1971 Road Runner [email protected] 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 CC 1/71
33 1971 Cuda 13.72@106 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 SS 4/71
34 1971 Corvette [email protected] 454 LS6 450 four-speed 3.36 CL 8/71
35 1971 Super Bee 13.73@104 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 MT 12/70
36 1968 Hurst/Olds [email protected] 455 W-30 390 automatic 3.91 SS 8/68
37 1968 Firebird 13.79@106 400 HO 335 four-speed N/A HR 3/68
38 1967 Corvette 13.80@108 427 L71 435 four-speed 3.55 HR 5/67
39 1971 Boss 351 Mustang 13.80@104 351 Boss 330 four-speed 3.91 MT 1/71
40 1966 Satellite 13.81@104 426 Hemi 425 four-speed 3.54 CD 4/66
41 1969 Coronet R/T [email protected] 440 4V 375 four-speed 4.10 SS 4/69
42 1968 Cyclone GT [email protected] 428 CJ 335 automatic 4.11 MT 8/68
43 1969 Nova SS 396 [email protected] 396 4V 375 automatic 3.55 HR 7/69
44 1969 Shelby GT-500 [email protected] 428 CJ 335 four-speed 3.91 SS 9/69
45 1970 Olds 4-4-2 W-30 [email protected] 455 W-30 370 automatic 3.42 CC 11/69
46 1962 Corvette [email protected] 327 FI 360 four-speed 4.10 HR 1/62
47 1969 Barracuda [email protected] 440 4V 375 automatic 4.10 SS 8/69
48 1969 Mustang Mach I [email protected] 428 CJ 335 automatic 3.50 CL 3/69
49 1967 GTO [email protected] 400 RA 360 automatic 4.33 CL 10/67
50 1970 Trans Am 13.90@102 400 RA 345 four-speed 3.91 HR 2/70
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Old 12-23-2002, 12:25 PM
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Just got in !!Real 1968 SuperStocker Dart (LO)For Sale
Hemi Crate motor and all the real goodies. Documented by Galen as a real Lo Dart

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Old 12-23-2002, 01:19 PM
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How much? Whats the numbers? Motown
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Old 12-23-2002, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: Fastest Musclecar?

The '64 A/FX lightweight 427 Falcon was built to, I believe, run down Thunderbolts and Hemi Darts and Barracudas and hand their ass back to them.. I believe less than a handfull were built but they were done the same way the Thunderbolt was. So they would be considered factory as well.
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Old 12-23-2002, 05:36 PM
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If we are considering non titled factory race cars as the Dart, you are absolutly correct, except the Falcon was a 65 and it was fiberglass. In 64 Dyno Don ran a factory Prepared A/FX Comet which set NHRA records. Dons best time was 10:56, the falcon turned in a best time of 9:80. In retrospect to these factory prepared cars I am now of the opinion that they should not be included in the fastest musclecar catagory as they were not allowed for street use. So guys, what is the quickest delivered from factory to dealer to customer, not including dealer built cars? Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
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