Anyone know of a Fathom Blue '68 DICK HARRELL Chevelle?

[the_bowtie_gang]

Man, welcome to this site!!!

1st it was "implied" that I couldn't or didn't know if I was even looking for a Nova or a Chevelle for pete's sake!!!

Then I was "informed" that all five of the Chevelles were X Y or Z (color), that makes five, so the one you're asking about (somewhat implied, can't be the real deal). Maybe it's one modified or something.

Then I get told AGAIN a 2nd time about the five (and only five) built according to Dave Libby.

69yenkoman, you've YET to explain how having the VIN for the car will allow YOU to find it... still waiting...

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY,
If putting a grinning smiley face after a sentence ISN'T usually an indication of
"I'm just kidding", then what is it?

The paragraph after THAT explained my reluctance of posting a VIN for a car that MAY be available. And WAS NOT directly speaking of the ethics of the people on this site.

But, if you WANT to talk about that....
I was warned from ONE OF YOU GUYS ON THIS VERY SITE to watch out for at least some of you.

One of his prime examples was a while back when a guy asked one of you about a '71 Baldwin Motion car and the next thing he knew (while the sale was still pending) that the very same guy he asked questions to about the car buys it.

And then quite a few of you pile on the guy who originally was asking questions about the car... hummm.. sounds just like what I was doing...

https://www.yenko.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000456.html

Now before the REST OF YOU HERE ON THIS SITE all pile on ME, I'm just stating what I was told by someone who posts quite a bit here.

I'm NOT painting everyone with a broad stroke of the brush.

But, after the treatment I've had in just one short week by at least a couple of you... WHO'S got a right to want to keep a thing like a VIN number to himself when that example HAS happened?

It's also so highly intelligent for you pick out one misspelled word just to belittle someone. It really makes one understand the maturity level of the one being critical. Feel better about youself, now do you?

Pssst, if sew, what a reel dumbb shiit U R.


[Edited by the_bowtie_gang (10-15-2001 at 08:27 PM).]

[the_bowtie_gang]

COPO,

Yes, and if the guy WAS actively dealing with the broker AND a price "was agreed upon" I believe the post read, then other offers should be held pending outcome of the CURRENT offer.

And I quite agree that pending deals or offers are not binding forever. But whether the time-frame was four hours later, four days later, or a call was to be made by "such and such time", then there WAS a valid pending offer and that broker should have dealt with it BEFORE accepting another offer.

[Charley Lillard]

I believe another Motion car recently came up for sale on Ebay that appeared to be just as nice as the one the potential buyer missed out on and was priced the same. I believe we suggested that he buy that car but I don't believe he did. I don't know the terms of his orig. offer but the second car should have fit the Bill OK. I even like the White stripes better on the second car. Bowtie..I agree it wouldn't be wise to disclose the vin to anybody also. As for Your comment " I was able to document IT and the Chevelle in 1984-5, were any of you owners OR personally involved with ANY Harrell cars then? " Does that make you better than us ? Sounds like that's the point you are trying to make. Maybe you're just crummier at finding cars. I hope after 15 years you finally find it. Right now I'm thinking I should be out trying to find that # 61 ZL1 with the Leads that were posted on this site.

[the_bowtie_gang]

I was told by "deep throat" (ha ha) that this guy (the one dealing with the broker) had called up and spoken with the guy who ended up with it.

At least that is what I was told by one of you "in the know".

I certainly understand that it would be one thing if the two had not spoken. And the one now with the car, had bought it out straight out of Hemmings.

But with the way it was told to me, it's a slightly different story. And NO, "deep throat" is NOT the disgruntled guy that wanted to buy to car, it was someone else who's posted enough to know who/what is up.

So are we NOW saying NOT to ask questions and about a possible COPO, B/M, Harrell, Gibb, or Yenko BEFORE buying it? So that guy should have "Just jumped on it" and asked questions after buying it? The you snooze you loose thing you're all telling him.

I think I've seen mentioned on this very site where you all shake you heads over all of the people who do not know much about these cars, thinking with their wallets THEN asking questions.

And you guys also had a discussion on all of the fake Yenko crap on eBay... and the worry of how all of the young people today think (might think) it's the REAL DEAL.

So. Then here's what I'm supposed to do....

Post the VIN here and with all of the nice people here, who

"...this site is about sharing info - including VIN numbers - and helping each other with their info requests, verifications, ect.."

That means you guys will give ME first chance at buying the Chevelle, RIGHT?

[Charley Lillard]

Bowtie..........Marlin might be into sharing vin #'s but we all know he is just Silly... Share the vin # with me and I will let you buy it after I'm done with it. As for Deep Throat, did he just hear the buyers side of the story or did he hear both.... The other side of the story that I was told was that there was no agreement on a sale and that about 6 people were interested in the car and that whoever stepped up to the plate would own the car. I have sat back and watched deals on cars where the buyer told me he wanted the car only to see him drag his feet until someone else scoops it up. I ask my friend why he didn't buy the car and then I find out he was trying to make some stupid trade to get it. We will probably never the exact way the Motion deal went but there are always two sides to a story. I'm not siding with either side but if 69Motion(I think that was the buyer)was ready to step up to the plate I would think that he would then go on to buy the second car that was offered. Maybe he has by now. Maybe he wants my 80 Motion......Hmmmm...

[the_bowtie_gang]

and another "Welcome to this site"....

"Does that make you better than us ?"

No, I reply. But re-read the part where I was told...

"don't know if it's a Nova or Chevelle",

and

"all five of the Chevelles are this, this, or this"

(basically meaning I don't know what I'm talking about, and if that's so, that means that you/them are "better" than me?).



"Maybe you're just crummier at finding cars."

"I hope after 15 years you finally find it."

sweet, more nice things to say to me. Keep it coming.

[68TopStock]

The_bowtie_gang

I know you are looking for help in trying to find this car. I understand there are those that desire to locate or "find" a car, so as to enjoy the discovery and recognition received from such an effort, and will undermine an other individuals' efforts. This really is hard work, and takes alot of time.

Just knowing the car may exist is great news as I have a strong interest in helping other owners of suspected or known Fred Gibb or Dick Harrell vehicles. I have only been associated with the folks surrounding these cars for a few years , however have found information available, if known, when asking for it. Feel free to e-mail me, and I will give you some names and phone numbers of other owners in the midwest, and the names of the Gibb historians. It appears to me this car is one of those shipped from Fred Gibb to Dick Harrells shop, and then reinvoiced to Branine Chevy. Take this offer as you may, hopefully, you will find the car you are searching for.





[Edited by 68TopStock (10-16-2001 at 12:14 AM).]

[69yenkoman]

the_bowtie_gang:

Ok Mr negative put your VIN where your mouth is !!!! Marlin's not afraid are you? I really hope you donÃt live the rest of your life fearing someone's out to take something from you. Oh yea and spell checkers usually catch things like...."goog guys" what the heck is that???

I really doubt that with an attitude like that you will get much help from the people on this site. I'm not saying that you should or shouldnÃt post the vin, all I am saying is donÃt perceive everyone as a thief or bad mouth them for trying to help

69 Yenkoman

[tom406]

I hope the bowtie gang isn't scared off, this is an excellent forum. For even if you look at the Motion deal thread, you'll find that both parties in that dispute handled themselves with decorum, no small feat when one man feels victimized, and another has his character called into question. I haven't found another site where so much information is shared, and the participants have so much hard core knowledge.

Marlin is an optimist, but you will note that he is very generous with his vast resources of Yenko (esp Deuce) knowledge. Its obvious he loves the sharing of information and he can't understand why everybody doesn't do the same. And as long as he feels this way, I will continue to learn from him, for free!

From what I understand, Charlie has bought and sold countless cars and has come to appreciate men of action, not just words. Probably because they actually buy things from him. His one reply was a little catty, but cut some slack-we all have our days.

Being a dealer/broker/appraiser, I've seen and heard a lot of classless moves. I once had a local jeweler copy a registration and go to the sellers doorstep to try and cut us out of a deal. (I wanted to go to the SOB's shop and ask if I could deal direct with his wholesaler when I had a need for gold or diamonds.) I've also held cars for people who promised me they'd buy a car, but neglected to tell me that they had to sell a few things, beg their wife, and win the lottery to pull it off. For the record, whenever I've held a car and not gotten a deposit, I've NEVER had the deal go through. I think I went 0 for 20 before I quit doing that. I'm not a hard seller, but if you're not confident or passionate enough to put money on a deal, buyers remorse will always prevail after a day or two. (Or a month, or however long the seller lets you drag your feet.)

As for sharing VINs and the like, I don't think limiting this type of info to e-mails or other more private means is rude. Chasing cars isn't like sharing information or history. Its more like poker where you play the cards you have to but keep a few close to your chest, so you still can win in the end.

[COPO]

the bowtie gang, agree w/you 100% regarding the BM Camaro, my point was the broker was the smuck not the sucessful buyer as the car was openly advertised and not something learned about by confidential information.

[Edited by COPO (10-16-2001 at 07:05 AM).]