stolen camaro found out of state

[markjohnson]

No way the original owner/victim should have to "reimburse" the money that was stuck into it. What if the car had been painted a color that he hates, had 1/4 panels installed that he could have done himself or had a rollcage installed that he would have never wanted in the car. How about if your rare original COPO was stolen and modified into a pro touring car and you were told that you should help pay for the transformation? Similar situation happened here a few years back where a Corvette was returned to its owner/victim many, many years after being stolen and was being licensed after a major restoration.

[SuperNovaSS]

It certainly sucks for both parties. It sounds like the guy who had the car stolen also had other things stolen. He may still be in the losing position even if the car has been partially restored. I'm sure many of us have had "done" cars that we completely tore apart. Each person's idea of finished or restored can be different. I have not seen this car so I can't say whether is is better off than when it was stolen or not. What paperwork did the current "owner" get with the car when he bought it? Again, this is a horrible situation for each party involved. Can we get a "thieves suck" emoticon?


Jason

[69LM1]

So.... The original owner should screw the second victim to get back as much investment as he can?

I understand quarters and paint, but the engine/rims/transmission that the second victim put in the car do not belong to the first victim in any way (ethically, not legally).

I am sure there is plenty of things they both did wrong (and hell, I've done it myself!) but in the end the primary victim did not ask to be stolen from nor did the second victim know the car was hot before he started on it. They both could have made better decisions, but the only one that deserves scorn is the thief.

I agree, if they get lawyers involved it will be a lose/lose.


Rich

[70 copo]

Under Georgia Law the father of the kid is considered the thief, and based upon his previous posts on other sites- He knew back in July that issues were emerging with the car.

I feel for the kid too, but failure and tough lessions will teach things you need to know in life. This is one of those lessons.

[69LM1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Under Georgia Law the father of the kid is considered the thief, and based upon his previous posts on other sites- He knew back in July that issues were emerging with the car.

I feel for the kid too, but failure and tough lessions will teach things you need to know in life. This is one of those lessons. </div></div>

Perhaps I missed something then. If the second &quot;victim&quot; knew the car was hot then yes, I have no interest in defending him.

I understood that he didn't know the car was hot, just that he was having trouble getting it titled. If he knew it was stolen then I agree he should get nothing.

Rich

[Kurt S]

Several Corvettes have been returned to their prior owners, fully restored. And when they had the car 20 years before, it was just a driver.
It's not nice, but the prior owner gets back the car. The law is very clear on this. Often if upgrades can be removed, that is allowed. Wheels, yes. Engine may depend on the case.
So sorry for the current owner, but such is the law.

[njsteve]

You know, this would be a perfect time for &quot;FOOSE-MAN&quot;, that TV show guy, to step in and get the 16 year-old kid a decent car and overhaul it for him. It seems like that poor kid is another victim in all of this.

[Stefano]

You need to be at least the age of majority in order to enter into a valid contract for the purchase of a vehicle or that contract may be null and void.

[old5.0]

It appears that guy#2 continued to dump money into the car even after some sort of issue emerged.

Also, over on NastyZ28, several people seem to be operating under the premise that this car, when stolen, was nothing but a tub. However, guy#1, in his original post here, seems to indicate that this was a complete car when it disappeared. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

[Smokey]

So lets say the guy has the car stolen...then the car gets restored after its restored. Lets just say the original owner never knew what it was other than a race car...and here it was a Yenko or ZL1 that the new owner thinks is worth 200-500k and has half or more than that into it. The original owner can't afford to pay him even though he wants to. But it was his car in the first place before it was stolen along with his other things. It doesn't matter if its a 16 year old son, or if someone dropped 10k or 100k into it. Someone should of done their paperwork first even if its right or wrong. I had it happen to me. I wish I could of got my money back but the guy was a deadbeat. My deadbeat has a court order to pay me back but I never can or will get a dime out of him. All I can do is turn him into his parole officer every now and he gets a week of jail time each of the 4 times I turned him in the last 5 years. Sad thing is I know who the pos is but I can't do anything about it other than narking on him to get jail time.