eBay '66 L78 El'Camino

[SuperNovaSS]

There is a numbers matching thread in the main discussion area that went on about a month ago. Very lengthy.


Jason

[mudjnky]

If the engine is restamped, that means it is a replacement engine, right? Therefore it would not be a numbers matching vehicle because it has a replacement engine, right? I am by no means an expert, but to me a numbers matching vehicle means it has the original engine, among other things. To me, restamping a block, and advertising it as original would be fraud, wouldn't it?

[66L78ElCamino]

The car is a real L78 car. The pop proves that. The original owner can tell anyone that. The casting #`s on the block/heads & date codes are correct for this particular car. The engine pad stamping has been done correctly. This is a commom practice done to cars with documentation. This is nothing compared to what people do, such as remove VIN plate or cowl tag and put on a completely different car. Ridiculous.

[AutoInsane]

66L78, welcome to the site. It is a beautiful car you have there. Although MysteryChevelle comes on a bit strong I would have to agree that if you tout a car a being numbers matching it would not be a re-stamp. It is fantastic and honest of you to tell anyone who inquired that the engine was not the original even though the car is an original L-78. But why should someone have to directly ask that question? That should be disclosed.

I guess it leaves the door open for a spector of doubt if you say numbers matching and you put them there yourself and decided only to tell anyone who asked the direct quection. It will make others wonder if the engine is not the original and you did not disclose that in your Ebay auction what else might not have been disclosed.

The facts are your car is quite rare having been built with an L-78 engine, the car is in beautiful condition and it has documentation to prove its history.

Glad to have you aboard! Good luck with the sale! Someone will be getting what appears to be a very nice car.

[Paul D]

I think the key is to represent a car as it really is. If the wordsmithing of an ad makes the prospective buyer think it is something that it is not, that is misrepresentation, or at the least a misunderstanding.

Unfortunately, in todays world of higher values and greed, the buyer needs to be very savy to avoid misrepresentation.

I think the El Camino is a neat car, just worth less money with with a stamper block, etc.

My definition of "numbers matching" is that the car has it's born with components. If it doesn't, the buyer should state numbers matching restoration (or replacement) motor.

Just my $ .02.

[mudjnky]

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The car is a real L78 car. The pop proves that. The original owner can tell anyone that. The casting #`s on the block/heads & date codes are correct for this particular car. The engine pad stamping has been done correctly. This is a commom practice done to cars with documentation. This is nothing compared to what people do, such as remove VIN plate or cowl tag and put on a completely different car. Ridiculous.

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I don't think anyone is doubting that it is an L78 car. I believe the issue is you are advertising it as a numbers matching original car and it is not. Maybe you should call it an "original L78 car with correct date coded replacement engine"

[66L78ElCamino]

I apologize for any misunderstandings. I was not trying to pass the car off as something that it is not. Yes, it is a very, very rare car.

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

and I apologize for coming off too strong and with such emotion... agree with most of what has been said in previous few replies.

Nice car, rich history, Not Numbers Matching.

Nuff said.

[PeteLeathersac]

It's a topic that's been well covered before but sadly in today's world, 'numbers matching' means just that...nothing about it being THE original motor. .

Reading ads these days, it's often best to forget what it says and just look for what's not said? .

My favourite is the 'correct restamp' term...what a great oxymoron! .

I think it's excellent how the seller has been up front immediately when asked and not tried to sidestep the issue...personally I'd prefer situations like this w/ the 'correct' motor but unstamped. .

~ Pete

[mudjnky]

Is there anyway to prove that an engine has been restamped if it is not disclosed?