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Old 12-10-2003, 09:31 PM
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About the 68 1/2 GTO Ram-Air IV prototype. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

While the Ram Air IV engine option
was a 1969 GTO release, Pontiac Engi-
neering and the Jim Wangers connected
Royal Pontiac Agency had pre-produc-
tion versions on the road from the day
the 1968 GTO went on sale. The car fea-
tured here (shown on the drag strip) was
one of the Pontiac Engineering proto-
types. It had been. shipped to New York
City for testing by Cars Magazine. Note
the GM corporate license plates. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
But the pic is too dark [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 12-10-2003, 09:39 PM
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Royal and Motion [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
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Old 12-10-2003, 10:01 PM
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In the article I have, they make special mention this car had been around the world (so to speak) and several different engines it.
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Old 12-10-2003, 10:06 PM
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I've never seen the factory use a plate like that. All the one's I've seen in the past and still see today for the prototype vehicles have an M in the middle. We still have
dealer plates like this one in use today. The other reason I think it is a dealer plate and not a factory plate is because it has the Royal frame around the plate, which leads me to believe the car already is a Royal inventory car. I've never seen a M (factory) plated car with any sort of dealer logo on it. Just my experiences with the factory cars I've seen over the years.

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Old 12-10-2003, 10:28 PM
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Possibly many type of M plate for show or test or other reason.??
The 67 GTO GM XXXX [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
The 67 Firebird GM XXXX [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
The 68 GTO GM XXXX [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
and this 69 Trans-Am probably the proto. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
this is new for me too.
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Set of prototype Ram-Air IV used on the prototype car. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

(PS) cool Green VS Green Yenko Camaro shootoot in this review. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Interesting, these round ports have the dummy hole over the exhaust crossover like the late model Pontiacs heads.

Could those possibly be 73 SD heads? The pre dummy hole intakes won't work on this type head, I think the dummy hole appeared along with the EGR valve. Totally not sure here, set me straight.

Awesome pic of the 69TA...... What is up with the plates?
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The connection, Royal Pontiac/ Motion Performance was through CARS MAGAZINE. Jim Wangers would supply the cars to Joe Oldham For articles to be published the magazine. Joe would then take the Pontiac's, GTO's Firbirds etc. to Joel Rosen at Motion to attend to the cars. After all the cars had been driven to NY from Detroit ad Joe felt they would need a tune up. The cars where generally returned to Royal broken. Specific tune up instuction accompanied the cars along with mounted slicks in the trunks. Other than the CARS MAGAZINE/ Joe Oldham connection, there really wasn't anything else.
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those are 455 heads,look at the missing header bolt
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This is a remake of the original "HP Cars" test
Possibly the author hack a little bit and ad this picture
to the article. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]
This is not new with MuscleCars SPS. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
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