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As I have said in the past, if not careful, we are headed down the same road traveled by our "Vette brothers. Their hobby got to the point that cars were being restored/shown without any of the fluids ever being put in the cars. The cars were being pushed where ever they went. Many of the other ones, which did have fluids in them, could barely get out of their own way. And, we are talking about some of the rarest hi-performance cars built. Finally, a couple of the larger shows decided it was time to end all of that, so one of the requirements for the top award was a car must perform at a certain % it was capable of when new. To them, and I agree, a car is not restored correctly if it will not perform anywhere close to the way it was built and thus, should not receive top honors. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img]
Think how exciting Vettefest (or other large shows) would be if any car wanting to acheive top honors had to perform within a certain % of when new. Then, awards such as the "Top Gun" award would truley go to a car(s) that was befitting the title. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]
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Tom Clary |
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Great post. And, by the way, Mark is one of my heros, as he truley does enjoy his cars. And, rewards do come. When Mark out ran the clone in his ZL-1 at SCR 4, it made the event. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
And Mark, drive the B-M car yourself. I know Rob, and others would love to drive the car, but you deserve, and should be, behind the wheel. It does not matter if you are a "professional" driver or not, go for it. What ever your ET, I can guarantee that there will be one person wating for you in the pits to shake your hand and say "thanks for the memory". Little ole me. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]
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Everyone has there own opinion on this one! If you do a 40K frame off resto you really don't want to take it out where some idiot is going to run into you. I agree these cars should be able to start and run the way they did when they were new. I have been to car shows where they would not start the car. I don't think some of those cars even had pistons in the engine! All your big car shows now will ask you to start your car if there is any question about this. If you like to race em or show em that is your business. I had my day in the sun drag racing so now I just like to sit and relax and listen to the comments people make about these old cars. A couple of years at "Super Chevy" in Joliet I had my Yenko Chevelle displayed, there were people packed around this car for two days, most people have never seen a Yenko Chevelle. One fellow there was with his young son and his comment was " take a good look at this car because you will probably never see another one". 70 COPO, I would be willing to bet you never drive that car [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img] Rick, how many times have you taken that red Chevelle down the drag strip? This is one of the best Chevelles I have ever seen! I know you don't drive it on the street much either! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img] I won't take my car to the strip because all you drag racers would beat me, I would be afraid to crank it over 3K! but by the same token you racing guys can clean em up and bring them to Vette Fest this fall and I will line up with you in front of a judge. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]
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1968 COPO/YENKO 9737 Non-Converted |
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Have I driven the 70?
Yes. Over 8 miles total - since restored. Some of the worst: Mid Ohio at the Camaro B-Day Party. 1.5 miles from trailer parking to the show- dirt return road to (dirt/grass field) Mud at that show also. Super Chevy at Indy 1997 2.2 miles from the trailer to the grandstand area-much of it stop and go in heavy traffic. 90+ degrees that day - hot and dusty. Yep, I even clipped into 4th gear that day. PS. I am one of those Chevy-Vettefest Gold Spinner Judges. Hope to see you at the show. Phil [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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Whoops! I won't say anything to get you upset! See you at Vette Fest! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]
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1968 COPO/YENKO 9737 Non-Converted |
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THis is a good post. My comment is this: most of the Supercars were drag raced in the past. So woundn't those make for more valuable cars since they have a history of being raced? Bill S. racing Ole Red Alert, just brings more history to the car.
What was more memorable at the SCR-4 ZL1 beating the Clone or who won the best show car? My vote would be the ZL1 beating its clone but I wasn't there.
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What was more memorable at the SCR-4 ZL1 beating the Clone or who won the best show car? [/ QUOTE ] There is no "Best Show Car" at any SCR's, Thats why they are so cool! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] |
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Guys of course I am with the thought if you can't drive it why own it? Even if I spent 50-60K to restore a car I would still drive it. I know my car is not a supercar but I raced it with the original engine. If you want somthing that is pretty to look at then invest in rare art. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/
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I don't think there is a right or wrong in this topic, it is just an opinion on why you should or should not race a supercar. I was pretty lucky, I guess like a few others were, to have been around when these cars first came out and raced every chance I got, maybe I might just appreciate the cars a little more because of this ,don't know. But since they are kind of special today I kind of wince when I see them raced on a regular basis hard with the original powertrain.
Everyone can either show their cars , nudge them now and again or race them till they can't run anymore that's o.k. because they are your cars , but for us older sentimental guys watch the 6500 rpm power shifts. IMO [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ ![]() |
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These cars are "rare art" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/
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1968 COPO/YENKO 9737 Non-Converted |
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