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#21
04-23-2017, 01:42 AM
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LEE...You just described an A12....a purpose built race car....
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04-23-2017, 02:08 AM
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What the A12 was is a car that was a "turn-key muscle car" with the best features that Chrysler had to offer and most important - be affordable. A car that could beat 90% of the muscle cars on the street at that time. A car that was to be sold in the thousands. That $3800 price I posted was MSRP. You could have easily drove one away for $3550 - HALF the price of a ZL1 Camaro. The only cars that really gave the A12s a run for it's money were the 1969 L72 COPO Camaros and Chevelles. Same principle as the A12: L72 427/425 HP engine, 4 speed or TH400 (mandatory), PFDB (mandatory) HD cooling package, a Ram Air system that worked (Camaro), RWL tires and 4.10 12 bolt rear. Last edited by Lee Stewart; 04-23-2017 at 02:11 AM.
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#23
04-23-2017, 02:33 AM
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its a race car..call it anything ya want, every mopar freak on the planet knows they are race cars..heck..i'm a GTO guy and i know A12s are race cars...cheap yes..but race car...
no disrespect..but..its a race car....
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#24
04-23-2017, 02:41 AM
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IMO - to be crowned "King of the muscle cars" you have to look at the available cars at that time and what came standard/mandatory as far as options on those cars.
Yeah it's great that you could order a 1969 Mustang 428 SCJ Mach 1/Sportsroof with a 4.30 Detroit Locker rear but out of 130,000 built only 1046 did. The 1970 LS6 Chevelle was a great muscle car. But it came standard with a 3.31 non-Posi 12 bolt rear. These are factors that should be considered when that crown is awarded. And as far as I am concerned there are only three contenders:   
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#25
04-23-2017, 02:47 AM
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All Chrysler did was make their Super Performance Axle Package/Super Track Pak standard minus the PFDB. IMO - a 4.10 rear was streetable. Not like the standard 4.33 posi rear on the 1968 RA II GTO.
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04-23-2017, 05:49 AM
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I own it ............. 1973 SD 455 ............ incredibly fast, great to drive, A/C, power everything, gorgeous, amazing ......... perfect
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1968 1/2 Cougar 428 R Code, Cobra Jet, 4 SPD, Red Interior in restoration at MASCAR to be unveiled by Kevin Marti at the MCACN 2020 1970 Top Secret Very Special Muscle Car in restoration by MASCAR to be unveiled at MCACN 2020 
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#28
04-23-2017, 01:34 PM
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 If this is moving towards a consensus, we should probably separate the post production "built" cars from the assembly plant cars - such as the Yenkos, Baldwin Motion, Mr. Norm & Shelbys.
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 Last edited by The Boss; 04-23-2017 at 01:37 PM.
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#29
04-23-2017, 01:54 PM
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Oh I agree, everyone has their opinion and everyones can be different. The other gentleman just was adamant that the 70 Chevelle SS LS6 was considered the "King of the Muscle Cars" by enthusiasts and magazines alike. And it is "well" documented.
I was just trying to get an idea from the group if this was true or not. I have never heard or seen it called that. I agree that there are way too many cars that could be considered "The King" way before even the best LS6 Chevelle.
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