#13 is lucky if you are a Camaro Engineering Pilot

[70 copo]

I would rock that car today with the mag caps... what do you guys think? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img]

[427TJ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would rock that car today with the mag caps... what do you guys think? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] </div></div>

Needs spoilers, cowl hood, Z stripes, SS emblems and Rallys. (Just kidding.)

[earntaz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427TJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would rock that car today with the mag caps... what do you guys think? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] </div></div>

Needs spoilers, cowl hood, Z stripes, SS emblems and Rallys. (Just kidding.) </div></div>

And don't forget the Stink Bug slant ...

[68l30]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would rock that car today with the mag caps... what do you guys think? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] </div></div>

I like the omission of the emblems and the lack of blackout on the pot metal, tail bezels. Looks good to me.


Phil,

Any research done on the 68's, Pilot/ Prototype? I have some neat pics from a 68 Z that spent time in R &amp; D with some weird stuff on it...I'm sure others know the car,red,black rally rims,sold out of Applegate....mostly factory paint and basically untouched.

BIG

[cook_dw]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 68l30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Any research done on the 68's, Pilot/ Prototype? I have some neat pics from a 68 Z that spent time in R &amp; D with some weird stuff on it...I'm sure others know the car,red,black rally rims,sold out of Applegate....mostly factory paint and basically untouched.

BIG </div></div>

Care to send the pics my way?

[70 copo]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 68l30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would rock that car today with the mag caps... what do you guys think? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] </div></div>

I like the omission of the emblems and the lack of blackout on the pot metal, tail bezels. Looks good to me.


Phil,

Any research done on the 68's, Pilot/ Prototype? I have some neat pics from a 68 Z that spent time in R &amp; D with some weird stuff on it...I'm sure others know the car,red,black rally rims,sold out of Applegate....mostly factory paint and basically untouched.

BIG </div></div>


Steve,

Yes... on the 1968 car click Here: http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/spec...el-trivia.html

Also interesting tidbits to come... Here: http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/prot...g-reports.html

Enjoy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

[1967Z28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve,

Yes... on the 1968 car click Here: http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/spec...el-trivia.html

Also interesting tidbits to come... Here: http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/prot...g-reports.html

Enjoy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>

I have the '67 Z docs. Was told by GM not to share them publicly. Congrats on getting permission to do so. Did you get the VINs of the first 25?

I have an original copy of the Concealed Windshield Wipers report. Kind of a neat historical piece.

[70 copo]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1967Z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve,

Yes... on the 1968 car click Here: http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/spec...el-trivia.html

Also interesting tidbits to come... Here: http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/prot...g-reports.html

Enjoy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>

I have the '67 Z docs. Was told by GM not to share them publicly. Congrats on getting permission to do so. Did you get the VINs of the first 25?

I have an original copy of the Concealed Windshield Wipers report. Kind of a neat historical piece. </div></div>

Jon,

From my prospective we were able to build on the relationship created during the research for my book &quot;Echoes of Norwood&quot;.

I have asked Corey Lawson to opine further on his perspective on the research and how it happens with respect to the pilot car registry site:

&quot; I suppose working in collaboration with the General Motors Heritage Center is like proving your moxy in a difficult situation. They are accustomed to being called upon to constantly help with the projects of others and being forgotten afterwards. These projects are most often attempted from the ease of a computer keyboard without the investment of human interaction. Consequently, the relationships never gain the traction of being unemcumbered by the issues of trustworthiness. If you are a reader of the content of pilot car registry, you will know that the vast majority of research is done in person and substantial relationships are forged in trust and integrity. Our relationships with Greg Wallace, Christo Datini, and John Kyros have been forged in this way. Not only do we document the pilot prototypes, but we have single handedly documented the Electric Drive Divisions activities within General Motors during the 1960's. This was done at the bequest of Christo Datini to fully document Electrovaire II and Electrovan. Both are vehicles owned and
showcased by the museum. This research comprised a substantial investment of time and financial outlay to achieve. The end result is over 2,000 pages of original documents that were obtained by Pilot Car Registry from the hands of the men that built these programs. All of these documents, as well as, the executive summary will be offered to the Heritage Center without compensation. Upon full disclosure of our relationship interactions with the General Motors
Heritage Center.....it becomes a template for others to follow that wish to enjoy the full cooperation of their archives and documentation. And in extraordinary circumstances.....even leads to extaordinary gestures.....as seen in the letter of recommendation for collegiate acceptance provided by Mark Reuss to Logan Lawson, (my son) the founder of Pilot Car Registry&quot;.

&quot;Additionally, all parties agree in principal to share the aforementioned research without monetary gain. Very often, this is not the objective in mind for people requesting the help of the Heritage Center&quot;.

&quot;And finally-relationships that are based upon truth and integrity respond well when the parties are requested to work jointly in corporate displays for General Motors. This is the picture of the involvement of Pilot Car Registry at the unveil of the 2016 Camaro at Belle Isle and the participation of these researchers at the Kettering Benefit Auction at Barrett Jackson 2016&quot;.

Corey Lawson

[cook_dw]

If that is the same car as #13 then it would have the holes in the trunk area just below the bumper for the full bumper guards vs the bumperettes that are currently on there. Also didn't the pilot and very early cars that got guards did not have the rubber cushions.??.. Or was that a situation where there were 2 suppliers?

[70 copo]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If that is the same car as #13 then it would have the holes in the trunk area just below the bumper for the full bumper guards vs the bumperettes that are currently on there. Also didn't the pilot and very early cars that got guards did not have the rubber cushions.??.. Or was that a situation where there were 2 suppliers? </div></div>

Darrel,

We are evaluating to see if the bumperettes were properly physically attached to the car or staged for the photos using something else to attach them for the photo shoot?? Yes we will be looking for the holes during the restoration.

BTW... good news- #N100013 is getting Lacquer paint just like N100001 did.