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RESTAMPING blocks or any other part on a car should be illegal. They should ban the selling of materials to stamp blocks or parts. There are a few out there that are doing this and when they are caught they deny it. If the block is decked leave that way. RESTAMPING is nothing but GREED and once your caught you are a marked person. Just my opinion.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bugsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RESTAMPING blocks or any other part on a car should be illegal. They should ban the selling of materials to stamp blocks or parts. There are a few out there that are doing this and when they are caught they deny it. If the block is decked leave that way. RESTAMPING is nothing but GREED and once your caught you are a marked person. Just my opinion.</div></div>
I agree 110%!!!! If its not an original component it's fraudulent misrepresentation to state that the <span style="font-weight: bold">"components are numbers matching"</span> without clarifying that the components have been re-stamped. IMHO!!!!!!!!
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How about some guys here that sell re stamped Distributors and Alternators. They tell you it is a re stamp in the description so are they crooks or scammers [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] Should sYc ban the sales of re stamped parts right here on the forum in the selling area?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about some guys here that sell re stamped Distributors and Alternators. They tell you it is a re stamp in the description so are they crooks or scammers [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] Should sYc ban the sales of re stamped parts right here on the forum in the selling area? </div></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold">As I said if they say they are re-stamped I don't have a problem with it at all. What I take issue with is the blatant lying!</span>
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IMHO -- "Born with" and "original to the vehicle/car" mean "that's how she came from the factory". The exception to that is when those (example - Don Yenko) pulled a 396 and stuffed a 427 in its's place. TAZ
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IMHO -- "Born with" and "original to the vehicle/car" mean "that's how she came from the factory". The exception to that is when those (example - Don Yenko) pulled a 396 and stuffed a 427 in its's place. TAZ </div></div>
Or when BWAG did the same when Ol Yeller was delivered 12/68. Bob told me "we yanked the L89 and put in the Booth-Arons L72 almost immediately. The L89 sat on the parts room floor at the shop for months and folks at my dealership scavenged it for parts". OMG, if he only had a crystal ball!
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I agree with TAZ, if it states that the drivetrain is the same one that was installed in the car when it was built (born with) you cannot get any more defined than that. One still needs to confirm but at least the author believes it to be.
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Misrepresentation is just NOT right!!@#$ TAZ
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Unless you personally purchased the car and have owned it since day one, then you cannot and should not use the term "Born With" unless you have a signed and notarized affidavit from the original owner, and even in those cases, you really have no idea! So the best way to protect yourself is to make sure the seller is known and reputable, the car is known if possible .. (not a barn find) and all date codes, castings etc. match, however once again, if you did not personally buy the car brand new and confirm everything yourself, then you really have no way of knowing for sure. I purchase a lot of cars, and I always make sure all castings, etc, are correct, and that as much documentation is present as possible and the car is well known.
Just my 2 cents [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]
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when I read the ad for the mecum COPO chevelle in this thread, I think when someone writes its <span style="font-style: italic">still with</span> its numbers matching engine, its like saying its got the original engine to the non savvy folks out there. But to me its just creative (yet sad) word-smithing. If its the original engine, people will say it is. I myself would not believe this is the original engine to the car.
For that amount of money, I would expect to see a picture of the broachmarks on the block with the head off. When I bought my 65 L78 out of the Otis chandler collection, I got a nice clear picture of the complete block surface (roger Gibson provided), not just of the pad. Real easy to provide. This stuff is not rocket science, if you are going to ask $200K for this type of car. That ofcourse still does not rule out a never stamped original block was used, but that is probably a rarer case on this chevelle, as one would have to nail the casting date to be correct. That would be pretty rare to get. |
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