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Old 05-08-2015, 12:18 PM
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Mark get up. It's Friday already, go hit the dyno. lol

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Old 05-08-2015, 06:16 AM
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Just run a step test or tweak the vapor pressure a little! LOL.
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Old 05-09-2015, 12:51 AM
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John, engine number 2 made 608 HP @ 6500 RPM, I made some mistakes on this build, and would like to try it again some time.
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Old 05-09-2015, 02:19 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vortecpro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

John, engine number 2 made 608 HP @ 6500 RPM, I made some mistakes on this build, and would like to try it again some time. </div></div>

Ya Mark, your right. It's down a tad from where I thought it would be, 620/630 range, RPM is right though lol.

We have found that in some cases, the light weight &quot;rotating assembly&quot; can actually HURT a cars performance. More in these heavy streetcar type of deals. We believe the especially on the street when you not fully into it, the heavy rotating help on shift recovery??? Inertia???? i don't know for sure, but found on cars that are 3700+ this seems to happen, yet track ET's seems consistent within less then a tenth?

Funny, guys are looking at motor 2, but overlooking the fact that a stock style L72 in motor 1 made 570??????? I see a few places on that build as we know and you could easily be 630Hp, just not sure exactly how the motor went together.

Mark, good work as always.
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Old 05-09-2015, 01:49 AM
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Aside from the heavy pistons &amp; rings, what else do you think held it back?
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Interesting question Eric. I've been told you don't usually see gains from lightweight cranks, rods and pistons on the dyno. They do help acceleration, but are just hard to measure on the dyno. My gut feeling is there should be some freed up hp, but I don't have much experience with dynos.

My Dad's 302 sure did well with a good set of rings- so i trust there could be a couple percent gain right there. I look forward to the evaluations.

Thanks for sharing!
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I have seen nothing on the Dyno with light parts. But they do help in the car. They rev faster between gear changes. I think your numbers sound right. Both Very strong engines. Great job on both!
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Here you go Mark:



MJ horsepower with a Vintage carb, not a bad combination. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Thanks Eric, thats some kind of carb!
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Thanks Mark. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

I heard a little hiccup at the hit to WOT, might need a little heavier secondary spring.

Test, tweak, test again, tweak some more...all in a days work. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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