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for you day2 guys that believe it'd be best to restore it back that way, you have to remember that it's originally Fathom Green and raced in that configuration first. I like day2 cars but since Ratical is untubbed, with its original non-narrowed BE & orig interior it makes more sense to go back factory style IMO
I would have probably gone back to factory style if my Rat Patrol COPO hadn't been backhalved...but then, I'd be less inclined to drive it
Doug, did you ever learn which dealer sold it? I really dig the special interior...looks Malcolm Konner-ish
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:08 PM
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:33 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NovaMob03</div><div class="ubbcode-body">for you day2 guys that believe it'd be best to restore it back that way, you have to remember that it's originally Fathom Green and raced in that configuration first. I like day2 cars but since Ratical is untubbed, with its original non-narrowed BE &amp; orig interior it makes more sense to go back factory style IMO
I would have probably gone back to factory style if my Rat Patrol COPO hadn't been backhalved...but then, I'd be less inclined to drive it
Doug, did you ever learn which dealer sold it? I really dig the special interior...looks Malcolm Konner-ish
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The car, in my opinion, loses all of its history and character being restored back to factory stock. I see COPOs that are fully restored and don't even look. They are boring. If you had both the same car side by side, one Day 2 and the other restored. There would be NO crowd around the restored car.
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My wife always tells me to keep my eyes on the road whenever we are traveling the &quot;back roads&quot; of different areas......this is the reason my head is always on a swivel looking for barns, garages, etc., etc........
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Car was sold new at a dealership called Rodenfels Chevrolet which was located in Parma Hts., Ohio a suburb of Cleveland... The dealership is defunct now... Changed names/hands several times over the years.. I have pictures of the defunct building.. They may have even torn it down by now.. I know that was the plan for the property...

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I'm not sure I understand how the Day 2 lable applies here. Is it a vintage race car or a day 2 car?

For me, a nice day 2 starts with a restored as stock car. You add some speed parts to your street driven car. The way the Ratical One was bought at auction seemed more like a vintage race car, tubbed or not.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not sure I understand how the Day 2 lable applies here. Is it a vintage race car or a day 2 car?

For me, a nice day 2 starts with a restored as stock car. You add some speed parts to your street driven car. The way the Ratical One was bought at auction seemed more like a vintage race car, tubbed or not. </div></div>

Paul, I guess the car was more a vintage race car with speed parts applied that were all correct for that era.. The car was NOT tubbed. It had a roll bar in it at one time.. I called it &quot;Day 2&quot; but I guess that definition varies.... It is what is was, just a darn cool old race car!! Like I said, a time capsule that sat for years.... Wish I had the $$$$ to buy it I would have...

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I never said that they suck. Not trying to be rude in any way whatsoever, i'm just a fan of a car in Day 2 or early race car trim anymore. Just trying to point out that restored COPO Camaros seem to be all over. A lot of these cars were raced from day one and I hardly ever see any that are still in Day 2 or vintage race car trim, making them more unique in my opinion. If anyone was offended by my comment, I apologize.
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I hear you Rich. Day 2 is one of those labels that has not found a firm, agreed upon definition. One reason is probably because it was not a lable Magazine people created and thrust upon us like Pro Street or G-Machines.

Day 2 has evolved in a different way. It will never really catch on to the mainstreem because its rooted in NLA speed parts and such. Day 2 will always be a small niche, one I find to be rather exciting.

I honestly don't have any real preference for a Day 2 car over a Vintage Race Car. They all should stand on their own. The lines get blurred becuase the Day 2 lable is ocer used 9or under defined). I'm probably one of the biggest offenders.

I would have to see more pics of the Ratical One, and even then I don't know if I could choose a specific favorite config. The FG pic with Cragars is pretty cool, but the lettering is neat too. As I said, the resto to factory is always a safe place to start over from, just like when new.
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