1967 Camaro L78 bad wreck

[al8apex]

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Black rim w/w snow tire?

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looks like fall or winter....the trees are bare...

...and wonder where's the motor?? looks like it's not there...

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as stated in the initial post:

" ... were going over 100 when they hit the bridge both died and the engine ended up way up in the stream"

[427TJ]

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In this case all I can say is the greatest thing that can be learned is to <font color="red"> <u> use good judgment </u> </font> no matter the age of the car.



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Wow, much clearer! Nose stripe area not visible. Maybe the black wheels were his winter set judging by the snow tires out back? Those wheels look like 5.5-inchers rather than the stock FC 6-inchers that would be factory. If those are the stock FC wheels then it was a drum brake car.

This is but one example of what happened to so many musclecars over the years. You can see why the insurance industry worked so hard to de-fang the musclecar and by the early 1970s had basically succeeded.

[Kim_Howie]

Bill, Insurance co. had nothing to do with the death of super cars. Try the fed. govt. Daniel Moynihan Started it. He was a environmetialist worked on acid rain &amp; geenhouse effect. Also a member of the democratic party.

[427TJ]

Insurance companies lobbied hard to get the government (yes, with help from environmentally activist politicians) to de-claw the American musclecar. I agree that pollution control was an aspect of the death of the American musclecar but the insurance companies were losing too much money paying-off wrecked and stolen musclecars. Thousands of musclecars wound up just like that Marina Blue '67 SS and the claims were eating into the insurance companies' bottom lines.

[442w30]

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Bill, Insurance co. had nothing to do with the death of super cars.

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For someone who is a grandfather, I would have expected a smarter comment than what you've said above. Of course insurance had something to do with it! I wasn't even born yet and I know this!

[Kim_Howie]

Bill, we passed the cost on to the consumer. We rated Hi- po cars back and still do today. I have been in the Ins. bus. for 37 years. I might have a ideal of what they have done in the pass.

[Kim_Howie]

Example the stupid seat belt law. 1972 5,000.00 medical on a auto pol. was 5.00 Today 37 years later it's 9.00 Do you think we care about seat belts? NO Just another thing the govt. has done for your safety. The state of Iowa our new GOV. added a 1.00 tax per pack of cigarettes. Of course they say this for my health. To stop me smoking right. Then they pass a law you can't smoke in a bar. I don't remember the last time I went in bar for my health. Idiots.

[Kim_Howie]

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[copo69]

Kim, I've been in the insurance business 30 years and yes the insurance companies had a lot to do with getting rid of muscle cars. Nationwide Insurance was the first to institute a hi-performance surcharge which amounted to doubling the cost of insurance on these cars. Nationwide's president testified before congress in 1969 citing the evils of these cars and I remember seeing a letter to the editor in Super Stock &amp; Drag Ill. from a Nationwide VP calling for the end of these cars. Other companies soon joined in raising rates and tightening underwriting for these cars. The target market for these cars couldn't afford the premiums so the cars vanished. Just last week I saw where Nationwide considered this a historical accomplishment.

[69hurstSC]

Oh yeah, AND KIDS WERE DYING IN THESE CARS!!!! Who gives a S**T about analysis of insurance and all that crap!

It saddens me that people view these pics and only can discuss stripes and busted emblems.