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Old 02-19-2009, 08:04 PM
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I still think the Camaro just will not happen. They waited way to long.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:09 PM
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The SS Camaro was already designed etc. It is probably going to be built.

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This has been confirmed. All the engineering work for the possible return of the Z/28 has also been completed. It's when it's time for performance tweaking that things won't change. Anyone who wants the greatest Corvette ever built should be picking up a ZR-1 because your not going to be getting anything better than that for the next 10 years minimum (that is if GM is even around much longer).

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Reporting on the topic must be incomplete at this time since what you are saying is that the "death" of GMPP would apply to future products then?? I wonder what year then??

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GMPP will continue to sell parts just as they have during the last 40 years. Parts will just get a bit stale as we move forward because no new engineering will be done in house. Having said this, is anyone really disappointed in the LSA and LSX engines currently available?

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Hylton,

I understand that. since you seem to have the Pulse- What is the projected impact to the production equipment that is performance related compared to the writ of the article? True or not?
If true When?
This year?
Next year?
Immediate?
Camaro? or the entire GM line?
LS-3 as the biggest engine for the forseeable future in Camaro??

Clairify if you can.
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Old 02-19-2009, 09:21 PM
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Looks like perhaps a mixed bag... We will see. Not all that bad after all. Perhaps Edmond's has the Pulse

Here: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=142386


This comment "But, Muniga emphasized that" "all high-performance projects are on indefinite hold." gives me the feeling that any future plans for a Z/28 could be at risk however.
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Old 02-19-2009, 09:40 PM
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Looks like perhaps a mixed bag... We will see. Not all that bad after all. Perhaps Edmond's has the Pulse

Here: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=142386


This comment "But, Muniga emphasized that" "all high-performance projects are on indefinite hold." gives me the feeling that any future plans for a Z/28 could be at risk however.

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That's about it. Think of it this way, if it's already out there and it is still selling, it will stay. They will not be stopping production of any performance part that is selling well. It's just that they will not try to improve the efficiency or performance of the LS3 (etc.) anymore then it already is.
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Old 02-19-2009, 09:54 PM
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I still think the Camaro just will not happen. They waited way to long.

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We are way past the point of no return. Plant is currently in ramp up mode:




















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Old 02-19-2009, 10:36 PM
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US Gov't (new owner of GM) has no interest in going fast

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Nascar,or do you mean in a politcal sense?

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I was thinking political US govt/left.........now that's sad but funny!
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:33 PM
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I WILL BUY ONE IF THEY EVER GET TO THE MARKET PLACE I WILL TAKE MINE BLACK WITH RED INT WITH RED HOCKY STRIPE
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:38 PM
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I WILL BUY ONE IF THEY EVER GET TO THE MARKET PLACE I WILL TAKE MINE BLACK WITH RED INT WITH RED HOCKY STRIPE

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No red interior or red hockey stick stripe available unfortunately.
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Man that's crazy!!

I was at the Chicago auto show and they were pushing the Camaro like you wouldn't believe. They had a crowd around the displays which was impressive.

Guess it's another example of the politicians (Both corporate and government) not understanding what moves cars.

I did notice a big big push on Hybrids.





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Correct! I was there to. I'm not particularly a fan of the new Camaro. But the busiest area of the entire auto show was by the Camaro. It was like a rock concert, no lie.
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Old 02-20-2009, 06:38 PM
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I understand that the Fed kinda has GM by the short & curlys here, but I think it's lost on a lot of folks in management exactly how influential a performance model can be on future same-brand purchases. A perfect example is a local friend of mine here...he knew of strictly nothing other than Chevrolet his entire life, as his family bought & drove nothing new GM's, until he became disenchanted with the lack of development by GM on the F-bodies [he'd owned several over the years], but FoMoCo was still cranking them out year after year, so he decided to try a Mustang...well, not long after that, guess what he got for his wife...yep, a crew cab Ford truck. He completely jumped ship, all because of simple continued support for their *affordable* peformance model...and it's trickled over into his family as well...all because of a single purchase [or lack thereof].
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