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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The one example they told me they just got finished picking up was a restored 62 vette in Chicago where the title did not match the frame numbers. Car was a big dollar ride, new owner lost his new purchase. </div></div>
That makes no sense. The frame on a lot of early corvettes rotted out and has to be replaced during a restoration. </div></div> But this quote from you(Fast67VelleN2O)makes sense: "I am of the personal belief that the numbers are what make a car... not the body. To each his own opinion."
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Tracker states: "I was just trying to establish if a shell with a hidden VIN and no VIN tag was more legitimate or desirable than a shell with just a dash VIN tag." Yes, An original body shell with the original, unmolested confidential VIN and no VIN tag IS more desirable than a shell with just a VIN tag because of the C-VIN's permanancy. Thats why they were placed there in that particular spot in the first place-to avoid removal and addition and provide a birthmark, so to speak. And also YES and YES to answer your question in a previous post as SYC did........ Verification in this order: viewing of legally assigned in-hand title with owner present; untampered with public VIN tag; untampered with C-VINs ("C" means confidential VIN). A friend I know a few years back mentioned a Daytona in Canada that was down a big ravine or similar, where a crane was needed to get it out. He never followed it up I believe. Is this the same car? .............
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Is this the same car? .............
Yes.
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Exactly how many hidden vins are on a 1969 Camaro including the engine and transmission stamps?
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Exactly how many hidden VINs are there?
There are 2 C-VINs.
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In general,I believe 3,Engine/Trans./Firewall.
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Actually 4 in total..
Engine and Trans plus the two Firewall stampings. Click here for clarification... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfq5kju627c [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] ~ Pete
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually 4 in total..
Engine and Trans plus the two Firewall stampings. Click here for clarification... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfq5kju627c [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] ~ Pete </div></div> So if a car had the Vin tag, and the original motor and transmission, but no hidden vins? What would that car be classified as then? The powerplant and transmission with the correct numbers along with the vin tag would (in my opinion) be worth way more than a car with 2 hidden vins, no vin plate, and no original drivetrain!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<span style="font-style: italic">So if a car had the Vin tag, and the original motor and transmission, but no hidden vins? What would that car be classified as then? The powerplant and transmission with the correct numbers along with the vin tag would (in my opinion) be worth way more than a car with 2 hidden vins, no vin plate, and no original drivetrain! </span></div></div> The value comparison being suggesting isn't clear cut enough and even if so would certainly be subject to opinions...especially here! It also may depend somewhat on where the person and such vehicles and/or parts of actually are and if title can be obtained there w/ the original #'s or not also being in possession of loose Vin tags in some places could quickly land a fella in the jailhouse!. Regardless of any scenarios, an unaltered 'vehicle' bearing the hidden Vins is THE vehicle the title belongs to, regardless of what engine/trans it may be sporting or tag if any is affixed!. Was the Canadian Daytona a green one?. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] ~ Pete
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So if a car had the Vin tag, and the original motor and transmission, but no hidden vins? What would that car be classified as then? The powerplant and transmission with the correct numbers along with the vin tag would (in my opinion) be worth way more than a car with 2 hidden vins, no vin plate, and no original drivetrain! [/quote] How can a original VIN tag, motor and trans. be original if they are not in the original car they were made with?
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