russo and steel chop job camaro copo

[firstgenaddict]

That sounds like a good idea, there is no reason a program could not be designed around a premise like that. Cost feasibility is the main question though.

[rpoz11]

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I have heard from several people on this car. It was apparently built years ago by a guy in Toronto named Frank Macri ? Macri sold it to PhilS years ago. RichP listed for sale on this site for PhilS a couple years ago and I believe Mark Bulaw said he thought this sounded like a car out of Canada that was a rebody and that Macri used a very nice Z28 to build it into the car we are discussing. Phil then pulled the cowl panel and found where the vin had been welded. He did not pull the fender and heater box to confirm the other hidden vin. He sold it to Pat Joiner and told him of the suspected rebody and priced it under 100K to reflect the rebody issue. Joiner then sold it to Corvette Mike's but apparently they say they were not told about the rebody issue. I was also contacted by someone that owned the Z28 back in the early 70's that this COPO was made from and he confirms what I was told about the resto. PhilS tried to contact Macri after he found out but Macri would not return calls and it had been a few years. If anyone involved would like to chime in and clarify the stuff I just posted, please do. I am passing on info that I believe to be pretty close but if anyone has closer firsthand info please chime in so we can put this one to bed.

Someone should check for traces of a 4 speed shift hole. I remember mention of this from before but don't remember the details.


If I am wrong on any of this I will quickly apologise but I think I am pretty close.
As for Drew floating vins by experts he might get some info but who is going to hang their necks out to taint a car if they don't know firsthand. I know I don't need that kind of stress. I get enough crap here on this site because I seem to be the catch-all during disputes.

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-------Per PhilS' reply:

"This is a little late but here goes. I bought this car in about '95 from Frank Macri of Toronto. I flew there and examined the car myself. Frank showed me pictures of supposedly this car during resto. Quarters were replaced, the decklid was sprung correctly for spoiler, a dated BE was present, correct leafs which had been heated and bent to lower the car, plate for exhaust hanger present, tunnel cut for auto and I think the nuts were there for the console, I think the firewall was for an auto also, the numbers were there on the cowl, wrong trans, wrong engine was a 2 bolt 512 which was vin stamped on the pad, carb was right, so was dist, intake, aircleaner unit and more. The trim tag looked right and was the correct info for this car. The resto was mediocre but it was a very rare car and could be bought for less than a resto at that time. I had another COPO needing resto but wanted one to enjoy at the time. Frank explained that the reason the quarters were replaced was because of damage related to drag racing and that the car was not rusty.
I finished my other COPO in about '03 and decided to sell the silver car. When Mark made me aware of the stories about this car I immediately took it off the market and tried to reach Frank Macri. I left messages with no response but finally caught him one day. He claimed that he was not the Frank Macri I was looking for and that he knew nothing of any Camaro. Maybe there are two Frank Macris in Toronto. At that point I decided to just sell the car as a car with stories and that is how I represented it. It was priced accordingly.
I don't think that it has been proved that this car is a rebody. It may very well be but more investigation is needed. Only Frank Macri knows all the truth and if any real wrong has been done it was done by him.

Thanks

Phil Silva 972-345-9604

PS If you know Frank please give him my number, I'd really like to talk to him.

Edited by PhilS (Sun May 04 2008 09:40 AM)"



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-------this one I am quoting above from Charley...

It appears that this should be the correct form of disclosure.

Doing a backtracing of the history known to this VIN/CAR and provide the necessary knowledge relevant to its history.

Someone changed this car around, for whatever reason...whomever that person is, could they please stand up and be accounted for?!!!

It seems to me that that person who ACTUALLY changed things pertaining to this issue should rectify this situation and put a final disclosure on it once and for all.

I recall looking at the imagery of this car I believe was on Corvette Mike's website.

DID Mike ever have any knowledge or background on this car prior to acquiring it???

As for the current owner, will you please help this topic and car out by doing the good work of discovery and report the ACTUAL results of what in question here?!!!

Sounds like a good few of you have touched on an Idea that comes to mind.

Make up a good worksheet of documents to state and verify for every car sold.

Could be that the auction houses could do the same and handout those results so nothing is ever hiddden.

Just my thoughts...