427 Baldwin Motion Nova For Sale - Page 24

**Mr70** · #**231** 02-23-2006, 07:23 AM

I don't have a problem with someone selling something for more then they paid for it,but I do when they won't admit that is their sole reason for acquiring said object in the first place,and want to use someone to get it by acting like a close friend and take advantage of them.
I have seen dozens of people approach me & others,asking for help or details in identifying that "special part" or finding that "special vehicle" they always wanted,...(Funny I never heard them say that was their dream car before..or show any interest in that before the B/J auction results came out)..saying something like they want to wrench on it with their son as their wife serves them Lemonade in their driveway on a Sunday afternoon...Only to see them front and center at some auction or website classifieds soon afterwards,asking at least 10K + or more then they just paid.When I confront them,feeling they used me or anyone else for that matter,they merely studder saying that had no idea how much maintenance was required,or they just couldn't keep interested in it so they're asking for much more then they have in it,hoping to get it and then never to be heard from again.
Just plain greed in my book.
I screen my calls now.

**Rainer** · #**232** 02-23-2006, 09:08 AM

Like budnate, I've been able to enjoy this hobby and progress to more desirable cars by finding a great deal here and there, seeing the potential in the car, and restoring/fixing/improving things to bring out that potential. That's a part of the hobby that gives me great enjoyment. I've been able to justify the "flipping" in my own mind by doing the car justice on some level and not doing things "quickie." I think if someone invests time and/or money in a car to improve it, then "flipping" it isn't such a bad thing. Its when the greed factor creeps in and people shortcut things, hide flaws, or flat-out misrepresent a car that I have a real problem.

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #**233** 02-23-2006, 06:03 PM

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I don't have a problem with someone selling something for more then they paid for it,but I do when they won't admit that is their sole reason for acquiring said object in the first place,and want to use someone to get it by acting like a close friend and take advantage of them.
I have seen dozens of people approach me & others,asking for help or details in identifying that "special part" or finding that "special vehicle" they always wanted,...(Funny I never heard them say that was their dream car before..or show any interest in that before the B/J auction results came out)..saying something like they want to wrench on it with their son as their wife serves them Lemonade in their driveway on a Sunday afternoon...Only to see them front and center at some auction or website classifieds soon afterwards,asking at least 10K + or more then they just paid.When I confront them,feeling they used me or anyone else for that matter,they merely studder saying that had no idea how much maintenance was required,or they just couldn't keep interested in it so they're asking for much more then they have in it,hoping to get it and then never to be heard from again.
Just plain greed in my book.
I screen my calls now.

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Ditto, I don't have time for flippers, they have different priorities than I do, and I'd rather spend my time helping people acquire their passion instead of their bankroll.

**kwhizz** · #**234** 02-23-2006, 06:18 PM

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I don't have a problem with someone selling something for more then they paid for it,but I do when they won't admit that is their sole reason for acquiring said object in the first place,and want to use someone to get it by acting like a close friend and take advantage of them.
I have seen dozens of people approach me & others,asking for help or details in identifying that "special part" or finding that "special vehicle" they always wanted,...(Funny I never heard them say that was their dream car before..or show any interest in that before the B/J auction results came out)..saying something like they want to wrench on it with their son as their wife serves them Lemonade in their driveway on a Sunday afternoon...Only to see them front and center at some auction or website classifieds soon afterwards,asking at least 10K + or more then they just paid.When I confront them,feeling they used me or anyone else for that matter,they merely studder saying that had no idea how much maintenance was required,or they just couldn't keep interested in it so they're asking for much more then they have in it,hoping to get it and then never to be heard from again.
Just plain greed in my book.
I screen my calls now.

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Ditto, I don't have time for flippers, they have different priorities than I do, and I'd rather spend my time helping people acquire their passion instead of their bankroll.

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Ken

Racefan · #**235** 02-23-2006, 06:18 PM

No one is answering my questions.............

Marlin- if you were to help me locate/get a 68 Yenko Camaro (which I am sure you would if I were in that position), and for whatever reason I had to sell it at some point--
1) how long would it take and....

2) what amount of profit would you be comfortable with me making....or

3) what situations (just an example or two) would you find acceptable to you before you felt as though I had just done it to increase my bankroll?

THESE are the questions that need defined. Problem is, I don't think it is that easy and also your tolerance level for the three questions above will change depending on the familiarity and relationship I have with you. Right? That is human nature.

There are 20 negative responses in this thread alone reagrding the negativity to "flipping" cars. But so far, I haven't gotten any concrete indications of what really constitutes the infraction.

Kim_Howie · #**236** 02-23-2006, 06:28 PM

Phil, The answer to that is when you help some one find a car and he says man I will never sell this car. I have always wanted one of these cars. Then six weeks later it's for sale 7 times more than you sold to him for. That's a flipper.

Racefan · #**237** 02-23-2006, 06:37 PM

What if when he gets the car, he really believes that he will be buried in it. But, then something comes up... who knows what (maybe something comes up he'd rather have, maybe health issues, or some other emergency) and the car needs to be turned into cash. Would it just be a courtesy call to you saying, "Kim, I really appreciate the help you gave me but........." that would keep you from feeling violated?

Also, just for the record....if you can help me as described in your post (by helping me find/get a 68 Yenko Camaro for 1/7 the value) let me know. I AM IN. And I promise not to sell it!! Heck, I still have my current 4 year project that I have been offered a profit for just because I have too much blood/sweat all over the thing to let go. But, I would sell one of my daughters right now.... the car doesn't give me attitude.

**SS427** · #**238** 02-23-2006, 06:50 PM

On a similar but different note, I get upset when a customer attempts to beat me up on a restoration bid so you give them the best price you can. Upon completion, they sell the car for several times their whole investment and you receive little or no credit. I would like to believe I had a little to do with the reason they received such a high price for the car but it bothers me when I cut my cost so that they can make more profit and then get no credit in the end. I guess they call that business.
Rick

Kim_Howie · #**239** 02-23-2006, 07:06 PM

If a money problem cames up and he has to sells it. I have no problem with that.

Chevy454 · #**240** 02-23-2006, 07:35 PM

People hang the flipper moniker on the *habitual* offenders...not the guy trading up or with his back against the wall...

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