eBay warning, please read

[Mr70]

<u>"If you think a message is from Ebay....simply go to Ebay all on your own, log on and go to your account. If it was real it will be there. If it was a scam it won't be there"...</u>

I just want to understate this again,as more people need to understand how this can resolve so much.
Click on your MY EBAY button at the top of the Ebay page.
Once there,click on MY MESSAGES on the lefthand column of that page.
If it's honestly from Ebay,you will see it there.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Been thinking this over...Ebay is not to blame..it's really Al's fault....if he didn't invent the internet...we wouldn't have these problems

wilma

[Verne_Frantz]

Give it up Tom. They're all smarter than we are. We just don't know enough not to click on the wrong thing...
BY the way, if ebay isn't doing anything wrong, why do we still see cowl tags, "novelty" build sheets and other "recreated" documents listed?

Could it be that a $3.00 listing fee is more important than preventing a $100.000. fraud???? I guess I have that wrong too...........

[427king]

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BY the way, if ebay isn't doing anything wrong, why do we still see cowl tags, "novelty" build sheets and other "recreated" documents listed?


[/ QUOTE ] We cant really blame ebay for those items as they are legal to sell everywhere else.

[Allen]

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Give it up Tom. They're all smarter than we are. We just don't know enough not to click on the wrong thing...
BY the way, if ebay isn't doing anything wrong, why do we still see cowl tags, "novelty" build sheets and other "recreated" documents listed?

Could it be that a $3.00 listing fee is more important than preventing a $100.000. fraud???? I guess I have that wrong too...........

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No one is talking about who's smarter and who isn't. It's more about an educational process of learning how to protect yourself and avoid situations that aren't legitimate and are scams. In the real world (not internet), it's called street smarts and applies to your safety and finances and everything else. I have no doubt that most everyone on here all ready knows that.

While the internet is a new area to learn about, the same principles apply. Use your knowledge and apply them. If something doesn't feel right about a situation, don't do it.

Regarding Ebay, both Mr70 and Charley spelled it out. They offered up direct tips in a couple of areas. Type "how to avoid Ebay fraud" in Google and read a little. Ebay isn't scamming you (except for maybe their fees ). It's either a few users of Ebay, or more often, people sending FAKE emails PRETENDING to be from Ebay when they're really not.

As far as cowl tags and build sheets and restamped stuff and whatever else that people try to sell on there, it's all available on other websites too. You can also buy them at swap meets. Plus sellers of stuff like that also advertise in Hemmings! Does Hemmings police their ads? They're selling an ad for the same almighty dollar that everyone else wants, just like Ebay sells an auction for one, and just like some website hosts allows server space to someone selling things that most car folks don't agree with (such as Trim Tags).

Ebay is probably run by a bunch of computer system and marketing gurus, not classic car enthusiasts. They also have millions of auctions run through their system and pretty much aren't experts in anything except trying to keep that system running to generate revenue. They won't ever be able to effectively police what people are selling, and I don't ever expect them too. They provide a forum for trading - just like the Flea Market and Swap Meet and junk yard and anywhere else - and people need to approach all with the same degree of caution and common sense.

[SuperNovaSS]

Well said Allen.


Jason

[427TJ]

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Well said Allen.

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I'll second that.

[Verne_Frantz]

Well Allen, everything you said makes sense, but I still wonder if ebay could put some software security in place that would prevent someone from copying a listing, etc. I'm so leary about messages I receive that I actually reported an email that turned out to really be from ebay....!

As for cowl tags and the like, I just don't see it as black and white due to the legality of it. I see it as an ethical issue. One can buy firearms and tobacco in every state, however ebay bans those listings, so they can pick and chose what they ban. Yes, yes, I know they are being sold elsewhere, but no where with the audience of buyers that ebay has. I'm very concerned about the ethics (or lack thereof) in our hobby today, and I feel that ebay is turning their back on the problem. And it's not like they haven't received letters from me and many others who have tried to get them to ban the listings of cowl tags. There is currently legislation going through Oklahoma that will make their sale illegal. Maybe once that passes, ebay will have to comply.

Verne

[nuch_ss396]

Verne &amp; Tom!

Ditto on your eBay thoughts! Like most of us here, eBay has
been a mixed blessing for me in terms of finding those long sought
after SHP parts. However, I've gotten burned too.

I absolutely agree that eBay makes tons of money and should
do much more to stop this junk from happening. The only
way this will stop is if eBay starts to loose revenue.

Remember, walks, money talks.

Steve

[nuch_ss396]

I'm not so sure Chuck. eBay will not allow firearms or
Nazi related items for auction; to name a couple of examples.

Nazi items are available all over the world, so why not eBay? Same holds for guns too. It's a business choice.

Steve