ZL 1 #51

[Mr70]

In no way am I siding with anyone on here,or elsewhere but I thought it has been stated & established a few times in the past,that the true dollar value of a 1969 ZL-1 Camaro did not matter at all if it DID or DIDN'T have it's original born with engine.
As long as it was in the VIN List with clean history and deemed authentic as one of the real 1969 ZL-1 Camaros,it's value was as golden as the few others remaining.
The answer given repeatedly was because so few were originally made,only 69,this car was the exception to the normal car buyers guideline,and THESE buyers were willing to pay the highest amount just to have one,with or without it's original born with engine...period.
Did this change? Does not having it's original born with engine effect it's value that much today?

[SuperNovaSS]

The original engine always adds to the value. It is the awe factor that makes these cars so desireable and the fact that the car still has it original engine adds to that awe. I imagine that is why Reggie paid up to have the orginal fixed; I know I would have. Is this Lamar character the same guy that recently gave the shaft to GRB?


Jason

[NovaMob03]

No worries ya'll. Things seem to be cool between Reggie & Lamar. The block Reggie has is apparently one of the 4 blocks Lamar said he ran in the #51 car-still significant IMO. Also, the repair bill on the block was only $5200. I was told the block that was shown to Reggie (as the original) could be repaired.
I think there's another party involved now saying HE has the original block.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I wouldn't want 'one of the four', I would want the original one with the original vin on it!

[Salvatore]

Absolutely without question!

[markjohnson]

It's really a shame to see Lamar's name and reputation being smeared on this site. The man is a living legend that helped make these cars as famous and desireable as they currently are. Apparently Vince Piggins thought pretty highly of this "character" also and that's some pretty good company to be in. Lamar is a long time family friend and honorable individual that doesn't deserve to have his name cast in a negative light. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

[sYc]

Mark, Seems the negative light is being cast by Lamar himself, not others.


Jude, am I reading this right, Lamar stamped the VIN on each block that he ran in the car, which would make for at least 5 blocks (the original plus 4 others) with that VIN? WOW.

[NovaMob03]

Tom, it crossed my mind that all 5 of them might have been factory stamped. I had had bought another ZL1 block from Lamar at the same time & the stampings looked totally different.
I feel certain that when Reggie & Lamar met they discussed repairing the block so Reggie might buy it. Reggie's happy knowing that he has 1 of 2 'factory sponsored' ZL 1's.
It's the 3rd party's involvement that has upset the apple cart. I'm assuming he might have one of the 4 extra blocks, & just like me, thought he had purchased the original one. This will play out in time.
BTW I like Lamar & in no way was this thread meant to tarnish his image. He's always treated me fairly.
It could be that the buyer learned of the sheet metal replacement on the car & has used the 'non orig block' issue to get out of the deal.

[Charley Lillard]

Jude....When you bought your block from Lamar did he tell you it was the orig block out of # 51 ? Did you sell it to Charlie Biele as the orig block to # 51 ?
Now we are blaming the third party ? Someone apparently sold him what he thought was the orig. block for # 51.
Somethin stinks in Mudville.

[sYc]

Jude, there is one thing that just keeps jumping out at me, something you you stated in your original post. <font color="red">

So, now it appears that I bought one of those extra blocks from Lamar even though he told me that it was the original. </font>

Also, I do not blame the buyer for wanting out of the deal. Who wouldn't after all of this?