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Old 08-15-2006, 06:02 AM
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Any of you guys with lots of documentation experience want to let us know if those are fake docs?

Since when does an address get listed as "East Side" with no street number, just a city? Maybe George Jefferson bought it when he moved on up.
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:18 AM
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Looks like a real tag to me. Just a old Z28. I remember back when adding options and changing interiors was done all the time. I'm guessing her husband probably added the RS like lots of us did. Also added style trim to make it look better like lots of us did. If you were going to jump on todays fake a car bandwagon you would have a much fresher looking car.
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:24 AM
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But would a Z28 have dual fuel lines? You can see 2 running together in one of the underside pics of the car. The interior change comments make sense though, as it has the woodgrain on the lower dash found only on deluxe interiors, and the tag indicates dark green comfortweave, as well as a reference to it on the invoice. I agree its obvious that all the things changed on the car have been done for quite some time...I noticed the black standard guts in it now are all original GM door panels and seat covers, not reproduction. Definitely a car i'd want to inspect in person regardless of what it is.
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:35 AM
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Okay...I'd like to learn something here. If it was a real RS Z/28...wouldn't it have "rally sport" where the Camaro emblem is on the fender? Like this? Or...Am I wrong?


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Old 08-15-2006, 06:39 AM
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Yes Bruce, I'm fairly certain this car had the RS stuff added at some point, especially if the trim tag is original to the car... but I think there have been exceptions where RS Z's got Camaro scripts on the fenders instead of Rally Sport. I know this was the case on RS COPO's, as Steve's original COPO car is an RS yet sports Camaro emblems on the fenders, while otherRS/COPO's have the Rally Sport emblems.

Could this have been an SS350 4 speed car that was "converted" to a Z/28 years ago, using a Z tag and parts from a similar car? The disc brakes and 12 bolt look like they've been there for years...stuff an SS350 would also have. Actually, everything about the car looks like its been that way for years. I also don't see on the paperwork where it says it was a Z/28 for certain. Just a price for an option. I hate to get into this ebay car bashing crap, but this is definitly a puzzling car to me.
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:46 AM
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But would a Z28 have dual fuel lines? You can see 2 running together in one of the underside pics of the car. The interior change comments make sense though, as it has the woodgrain on the lower dash found only on deluxe interiors, and the tag indicates dark green comfortweave, as well as a reference to it on the invoice. I agree its obvious that all the things changed on the car have been done for quite some time...I noticed the black standard guts in it now are all original GM door panels and seat covers, not reproduction. Definitely a car i'd want to inspect in person regardless of what it is.

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OOps..I forgot about the fuel line part..Houston we have a problem... I would like to see the hidden vins...
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:49 AM
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Could this be a rebody where the VIN tag, Trim Tag, emblems, 12 bolt, etc were swapped to a donor 350 Camaro? I would check the hidden VIN's.

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Old 08-15-2006, 06:57 AM
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Thanks Joe. I learn something new every day here. Hmmm...I *thought* that I knew quite a bit about american muscle...

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Joe,
I though the same thing... it was all suspect until the dual fuel lines... that was the breaker that put it over the top.
I also think that it was a SS350 car that someone dropped a bunch of Z stuff on.
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No one noticed the rear leaf springs!!! count em !!!! Jim
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