Unique Shelby Convertible for sale

[Stuart Adams]

Great info Les. Hope to see you in Vegas some day. I have #76 now, you going to the show in Vegas early next year?

[rich p]

WOW !!! Now thats real information, need to know information.What would make someone sell parts off a concours car! My mouth hit the floor on this information on a car of this caliber.Great car gone Bad !!
I have learn you still need to check even the Best of the Best car.
Sold a Boss 429 a few years back that was a concours car with NO fluids from a very well known restorer and when fluids were put in the car, it just poured out of the block.What a lesson learned !!

[mister_copo]

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IF that's the same black jade drag pack GT 500 Shelby convertible......it doesn't have an original engine or any of the expensive original parts left on it from when it won the Thoroughbred award.

Through several owners all the hard to find irreplaceable parts fell off and were sold. I know people who bought some of the parts off the car and know people who almost bought the car(including myself)until they had an expert look at the car and determined it is no longer a throughbred level car due to the missing parts.

Les, I'm stuck here, first you stated the above....are you now recanting those comments with whats being offered below?

It is still clearly a MCA concours gold car and may very well be still a thoroughbred. Everyone should consider the infromation my law office acquired during our litigation MAY NOT be true regarding the parts. People make mistakes and many times people have their own agenda's. We have not formed any concrete conclusions and neither should anyone else. We believe the information we have acquired to be reliable but we can't guarantee it.

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I am not seeing much correlation between the Cuda story and the fact you reportedly know people who supposedly bought expensive parts off the car in question.

Are you trying to say that you are incorrect? Is this an apology of sorts? Did I missed something here? I am confused and it ain't the stuffing.

[golfer]

Les,

I have been out of town and unable to respond until now.
I think there is both confusion and some mis-information about my car.

First, while the VIN number is the one Mr. Quam mentions, my car was never sold at Russo-Steele.
Second, my car has its original, matching numbers engine. The VIN is on the block, drivers side, just below the head on a rough cast surface.
Third, I also had heard rumors that parts had been removed, but that too is not true. I believe what happened is that Worldwide Musclecars owned my 69 Shelby and a record setting 66 Shelby. It is a fact that there were parts removed from the 66 Shelby before Worlwide picked it up. I would venture that the rumor of parts being removed is a mix up between these two cars. I would also have to wonder what parts one would remove from a 69 Shelby? My tires are still 69 tires, I would have to look again, but I believe all the belts and hoses are still the original Ford NOS stuff. At any rate, since the Russo-Steele comment and wrong engine comment were both incorrect, then I would suggest that this parts missing comment is also wrong.

However Les, I would appreciate you contacting me at the phone numbers below if my information is incorrect. Les, I would like some proof that parts were removed from my car. I would also like the names and phone numbers of the MCA senior judges who you indicated would no longer judge this a thoroughbred car. The reason I would like this information Les, is that I have enough money, time and lawyers to make life miserable for the people who sold me my 69 Shelby if you can provide me proof that my car was not as represented to me when I purchased it, i.e. that it doesn't have its original engine or that parts were scavenged off the car.

I appreciate your help with correcting any mis-information about my car,

Chip Wright
Call anytime and I will be glad to talk about this.
cell 770-365-1872
home 678-305-0756
office 770-956-1225

[Les Quam]

Chip,
A 1969 Shelby CV black jade with the VIN number 9F03R482667 sold at Russo and Steel on August 17, 2001 lot number 310 for 103,400 dollars. Mileage according to the auction listing was 21,474 in August of 2001. This transaction can be found on several different websites for your immediate review including RS as well as Sports car Market and others .

If you look up 9F03R482667 in the Shelby registry you might note that the mileage is referenced at 24,000 in 1988. You might also note that the block was replaced according to Shelby records posibly twice.

There are a number of different ways to determine if your car still has it's original parts. One of which is to retain an expert to examine the car for you another is to put the car on a lift and simply get the part numbers and date codes off the parts. Every part on that car will have a date code and part number including the fan belts where the date is embossed onto the belts. As will the exhaust etc.

I have no idea what world wide did or didn't do in regard to your car nor am I making any representation connected to world wide nor was I aware that they removed parts from a 66 as you claim?

Every old muscle car requires generous amounts of time in regard to performing due diligence and research prior to a purchase I have over 30 cars of my own and don't have the extra time to help you with your car. Sorry I have enough projects and parts to round up for next years MCA circuit and will struggle to meet my deadlines.

There are a couple of MCA National shows very close to you next year. I will be there as a judge like I was at the MCA grand national( yes they are scraping the bottom of the barrel when they need me) and I will be bringing cars for the show. I would enjoy meeting you and if you enter your car there will be several senior head judges doing the Thoroughbred class to examine your car for you. If it is still a Thoroughbred it will be awarded as such. The quality of workmenship on the car is outstanding and the car is ultra rare and will always bring a world record price when it sells.

Hope to see you and your fantastic car at an MCA show! I certainly mean't no disrespect toward your car and like I said think it will bring a world record for a 69 Shelby if you decide to sell it. A seller really can't hope for more than a world record I would think when they sell there car.

[TimG]

Benchmark demands that everything be done on the same weekend, Survivor one day and Gold judging the next day.
Judging sheets are good, but you best look and verify all the parts are there. Heck, a correct distributor cap is $300 now. I wouldn't want to get home and remove the distributor shielding only to see a service replacement cap.

[SSJunkie68-69]

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I know its a lot, but find another one.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MakeTrack=true

Any thoughts or comments on this one. Not trying to hijack the thread but just trying to get a better understanding of what makes these cars so special and therefore so high $ value. Aside from auto vs. manual and the colors what else do you all see?

[olredalert]

-------Just for starters; "Super Cobra Jet" and "Drag-Pak". Both of which I believe are extremely rare.
-------Also, just my opinion, but I think the automatic looses just a bit by the lack of air-conditioning. The SCJ/DP 4spd. does not suffer in that regard. They appear to both be excellent Shelbys and are both worth a ton!!!..........Bill S

[prototype]

The drag pack option in a 69-70 Mustang (Shelby Mustang in this case) could only have a 3:91 or 4:30 gear ratio and automatically triggered the SCJ motor which included key items:
external engine oil cooler
externally balanced crankshaft
lemans rods
gear reducer on transmission (similar to 4:10 LS6)

The drag pack option could not have A/C from the factory(few dealer installed units have shown up, they are easy to distinguish by the pushed out clock in the interior).

2667 is also unique in that it is a "big suspension" car which was only available on later cars.