Thoughts on this '71 Z28 RS

[Supercar_Kid]

The blue Z above is owned by a local dealer who is a good friend of mine. The miles are legit, and he has paper out the yin yan for it, including original window sticker, P-O-P, Original Title, Pre-Delivery Inspection Checklist, and even some receipts. He picked it up from the original owner earlier this year. The car was raced breifly at one point w/ an automatic and still retains a modified auto X-member. It's not 100% perfect but it's not really a restored car. This is/was a fairly well known local car for years, my buddy just happened to be the one to get lucky enough to finally shake it loose. Plenty of originality left and no question on the miles, original smog equipment, shift knob, and just about every other part no matter how trivial was saved and came with the car. Not cheap, but a good '71 Z IMO.

[Rick H]

If I had a choice I would choose the blue one over the red one based on both info.

4 months between motor and car build date is too much as Chuck mentioned. Unless there is a POP to prove otherwise.

Shouldn't the heater hoses on the red car be the ribbed type? Ahhh, picky, picky.

Rick H.

[dkatap]

Both look to be very nice cars. I would enjoy having either one of them. In the fall of 70, there was a strike and I don't think any cars were built in Oct. or Nov. So on the red car, I think the Aug date engine is possible, but it would help to know the casting date of the block and additional component dates. I think the 837 alternator could have a Aug. 5 date. Everything looks good to me, except minor details such as heater hoses, power steering hoses, tie rod end rubber boots.
A few things I noticed on the blue car is that the pass fender has been replaced, also the master cylinder and the fan shroud as Chuck mentioned. Also I noticed that the trunk weatherstrip is installed with the seam at the top, which I would be surprised it left the factory that way.

Dennis

[olredalert]

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[CamarosRus]

The right fender indentation was added in 1974 and later in 74 was cutout preparing for the a certain 75' Air Cleaner application. ORIGINAL 70-73 Camaro right fenders do not have this indentation. MANY, MANY 70-73 Camaros were restored, repaired with these indented NOS later year fenders. It is always a tell tale sign, that car is NOT a true survivor.

Chuck

[71SSNova]

My 71 Nova SS is a 12A car with the numbers matching block. Casting date of Sept. 12, '70 but a build date of Dec. 2.
GM was on strike Sept. 15, 1970 to Nov. 20, 1970.

[Johnny Horsepower]

I don't know if it applys with these cars and the LT1 but,
my 69 RA IV conv's engine has a similar gap. evidently the RA IV motors were built in batches and it often took months before a car was built with one. I would guess Chevy's high volume might make this theory not apply

I like em both...... at 02's prices

[Supercar_Kid]

Yes the blue Camaro has had a fender replaced since it was dented when a woman bumped into the car years ago, it was replaced in '93 with a then NOS GM replacement, and the original fender is still with the car, along with all the original smog tubes, the original shifter knob, and the original master cylinder with bleeders. Sure some of these items have been changed during the car's 34 years of life, I wouldn't discredit the car because of it's fender.

The car has been repainted and "freshened" all which happened in 1993 when the original owner decided to revive it a bit. This is all mentioned in THIS THREAD
If anyone is serious about buying the blue car, I strongly suggest you give the owner a call and speak with him personally. He's got nothing to hide. This car has a pile of docs and the selling dealer Watkins Chevrolet in Boswell, PA is still in business and the owner can personally remember selling the car, this has been verified. It may not be a "survivor" but there's no question it's a legit all #'s matching Z28 with some very unique options that HAS NOT BEEN RESTORED aside from a paint job, new door panels and a carpet kit. Call it whatever you want, I'd say it's got to be in the top 10% of un-monkeyed with 2nd Gen Camaros out there.

I've also got about 75 detailed photos of this car, top and bottom, if someone can point towards a good free web hosting site maybe I can get them up for all to see.

[ohhawk]

Regarding the gap in time issue for the red Z. I've heard from two other people that there was a strike during this period of time as has been mentioned earlier in this thread. I've tried to find something in print to verify but haven't had any luck. Could well explain the 4 months.

[njsteve]

I've heard that strike info as well. The more famous strike was in 1972 when the entire F-body model year was scrapped after a strike that began in April 1972 and lasted til September 1972. Only those Camaros and Firebirds that were built and delivered before March '72 got out.