Interesting day 2 copo on ebay?

[69L72RS]

I bought this engine : T0423MN/VIN 19N641030, when I was gathering parts for my car. I found it about 89 or 90 when Brad had it in his car. He bought the engine out of a 69 camaro racecar in Xenia, Ohio. I had to buy the whole car to get this engine. After deciding to not use this engine in my car, I started hunting the body. I tracked it to somewhere around Columbus and lost it.

[69L72RS]

I asked Kurt about helping track the car down a while ago.
Kurt asked me about the engine in March of this year and I sent him a picture of the deck and the casting dates from the engine.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 9N641030 engine
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 02:11:57 -0500
From: Kurt Sonen <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>


Eric,
Do you have the engine code for 9N641030? I assume the VIN was by the oil
filter, right?

Nothing in the db on that car, but there are some COPO's built about the
same time....

Thanks!
Kurt S
CRG - www.camaros.org


Kurt let us know what you have on the car.

Has anyone seen this car yet?

[Lynn]

Bear with me. Still a little confused. So is the car in the auction 124379N641030? I don't see a VIN listed in the description.

If so, does he have a restamped engine he is passing off as the original?


Lynn

[Astock]

69L72RS,
It looks like you've found your car.
Good luck with the purchase.

[69L72RS]

Another member got the VIN from the seller and called me.
I also verified it with the seller.
I am not saying that "he" restamped the engine that is listed with the car, "it is the way he got it", but think about the following.

There are several members that that have seen the engine in my shop.
There is one member who tried to buy it from me in 91.

[Lynn]

Good luck. Hope you get the car and engine reunited. You will have beat some pretty long odds.

Lynn

[raw muscle cars]

If someone else gets the car are you selling the engine so they can go back together?

[69L72RS]

The engine belongs with its original car, no matter who ends up with the car. I haven't given up yet.

[69L72RS]

I won't be the one reuniting the engine and the car.
I can't justify the numbers he is placing on the cars value. I spoke to the seller tonight about buying the car or selling him the engine.
I offered him the engine and the BE 0424 rear and he didn't seem interested in anything but the contact info for some possible documentation on the car.
He stated that someone has offered him 90K+ to end the auction early. He didn't appear to care that the engine he lists as "original" is a restamp and didn't see anything wrong with the way it was listed. He says he is ending it early Thursday.
He also stated that the car was verified by a "Mr. Lopata"
and a "Mr. Cuneen". He said Tim had him just about completely disassmble the car to verify it was original.

Is a "base" COPO project with a restamped block/wrong trans/wrong rear worth 90K? Just curious on unbiased thoughts from other members.

[Jeff H]

[ QUOTE ]
I won't be the one reuniting the engine and the car.
I can't justify the numbers he is placing on the cars value. I spoke to the seller tonight about buying the car or selling him the engine.
I offered him the engine and the BE 0424 rear and he didn't seem interested in anything but the contact info for some possible documentation on the car.
He stated that someone has offered him 90K+ to end the auction early. He didn't appear to care that the engine he lists as "original" is a restamp and didn't see anything wrong with the way it was listed. He says he is ending it early Thursday.
He also stated that the car was verified by a "Mr. Lopata"
and a "Mr. Cuneen". He said Tim had him just about completely disassmble the car to verify it was original.

Is a "base" COPO project with a restamped block/wrong trans/wrong rear worth 90K? Just curious on unbiased thoughts from other members.

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I just love this type of attitude. Now that you told him you have the original block, he could probably be sued for fraudulently selling the car with a restamped engine claiming it's original. $90K for a non original motor needing restoration is too high IMO, but if his potential buyer really thinks it's the original motor it might not be that far off the price.