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My theory on this issue, is that all modifications be made and sold as new through an authorized dealer, if it should be GM, Ford,or Chrysler, as they would finance or do any warranty work on dealer built cars and not those that were modified, later? A dealer might have a different policy on this, but I don't think the manufacture would? As in the case with the Harrell cars, these could be financed through GMAC including the add-ons; headers,glass hood, slicks, wheels, tach, etc., when bought new through an authorized Chevrolet dealer complete with original factory warranty.
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Ray, I couldn't agree more. My thoughts have always been a car with a warranty is what I would consider a car "as purchased". Anything added later on is a much different animal than what you bought off the dealer's lot new. That being the case, I've heard of a 69 Camaro SS bought from Reedman Chevrolet in Langhorne PA with a 454 in it swapped by the dealer and sold new with the 454. The car is still owned by the original owner last I heard. Makes a COPO 427 seem tame!
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By 1968 Chevrolet was aware of how certain dealers were modifying new cars and issued CDSIB 68-I-4: "Dealer Modification of Air Pollution Control Equipped Motor Vehicles" which basically said, stop it or risk getting fined.
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Wonder how they got a 454 to put in a '69, an entire year before anybody could get one from chev?
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No, remember that 69 was an extended year for the Camaro so the 454 was already out for the 70 model year when 69 Camaros were still being built. It must have been a late year 69 Camaro that they did the swap on.
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Jeff, It could even have been a early car that hadn't sold yet. Wrong color wrong interior? Who knows
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How would a '69 396-375 Camaro SS that had 427-425 put in as a warranty replacement be viewed then? I have a friend that still has his Camaro that he bought new and this is what was done for him when the 396 blew up. Car has under 20,000 original miles on it.
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I feel like Ray what ever the car was sold new as is what it is. A car having a 427 done later isn't the same as sold new. Sounds like a nice car. The value should be higher on this compared to a 396-375 because of the warrent transplant. JMO. Kim
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Um... what about customer cars modified at Motion Performance? I doubt that they received much of a warranty, except for the 11 second ET guarantee. Or a car modified by Dick Harrell for one of his customers.
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I agree with your view Kim. A car that has a motor swapped later on whether it was a dealer installed warranty swap or just an engine swapped in isn't the same thing as a dealer transplant when new. But who are we to say where the value really is, it's up to the buyers and what they're looking for. Paperwork on any kind of swap is a must and will obviously add value. But plain and simple, it's the history of the car and you wouldn't restore it back to status it was when the original motor was blown or swapped. These cars seem to be the toughest to categorize and put value on. Still cool cars, no matter what.
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