1970 RAIV Judge Ragtops

[Belair62]

It was a nice car....yesterday was a perfect day to own it around here too !

[csx289]

Eric,
I am glad you can call the car I sold an "OK" car, without ever having seen the car since it was restored. Yes, it did originaly have Sandalwood interior and top. That fact was clearly mentioned by me in the auction catalog and to every prospective buyer that looked at it.It didn't bother me , or the buyer. I actually prefered it being a black interior and top.

I respect your opinion, and those of other members of this group. However , I respectfully ask that before passing judgement (no pun intended) on any of my cars , how much they are worth or are not worth, or my personal financial standing that you please get some first hand knowledge of anything you care to comment on.

Value (percieved or real) of ANYTHING in life only matters in the owner's eye when you really get down to it. On the day I sold my car , the new owner felt it was worth what he bid , and I felt I was getting a fair value for all of my efforts in making the car what it was , so we had a deal.

If you are truly interested in seeing what your RAIV Judge convertible is worth for real, take it to a first rate restoration shop , have it restored to #1 condition , and then enter it in an auction and let it "sit on the money" as they say. There are plenty of fine restorers such as Aloha/Imagine , Tiemann , Gary Thurlow, etc.. that would all be happy to take $100k give or take to get your car done to the level that I had mine done to.

At that point, we can compare prices on a hard loaded, good color , 4 spd w/ A/C RAIII Convert to a RAIV convert and see what the difference really is in the real world.

I will promise you this, for both your benifit and the buyer's , if this day should ever come I will reserve any comment on the condition of your car unless I have personally inspected it at the time of the sale.

As always, you are more than welcome to come here and look at any of my cars in person at any time. I'll even give you a tour of the toothpaste factory.

Regards,
Colin

[yellowjudge]

Has anyone seen the 70 silver RAIV judge convt. on customclassicgto.com ??

[70judge]

I know of a guy who has one in sauk city wi.It is a black RA 4 70 judge.

[yellowjudge]

HI, it is a convt? RAIV. Has anyone out there ever seen a special order ( - -) paint code Judge? I have a 70 Daytona yellow RAIV, orig paint car. thanks [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]

[442w30]

Isn't it technically a Goldenrod Yellow Judge?

[yellowjudge]

HI, I would assume it is a non pontiac color, that's why the 2 dashes on trim plate. Goldenrod yellow a non judge color, but still a pontiac one. The car is really a one of a kind, paint really nice for being 33 yrs old. It is a Freemont Ca.built car. My thought it is prob. only RAIV built this way. It is really a loaded car also.
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[SamLBInj]

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HI, I would assume it is a non pontiac color, that's why the 2 dashes on trim plate. Goldenrod yellow a non judge color, but still a pontiac one. The car is really a one of a kind, paint really nice for being 33 yrs old. It is a Freemont Ca.built car. My thought it is prob. only RAIV built this way. It is really a loaded car also.
What GTO's do you have? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img] <font color="yellow"> </font>

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Sounds really sharp..any photos?
Sam [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]

[442w30]

Just because there are two dashes does not mean it's not a non-Pontiac color. For example, if my car came in Rallye Red (which is the same as Carousel Red, I believe), it came with two dashes, even though it is designated as an optional color. I am not sure why that is. I feel the two dashes for your car is not determinant on whether it was a Pontiac color or not because Goldenrod Yellow is obviously a Pontiac color.

The two dashes has confused me and I am not sure if there is a rule of thumb to it. As I know it's been used for RPO and non-RPO colors (for a respective model) as stated above, it seems like there is no rule of thumb.

[DaJudge]

yes, GTO_Don had a special order paint 69 Judge that was sold out of Pontiac's retail store in Michigan. It was also Goldenrod Yellow. It as listed as such on the PHS and Build sheet. Michael Green has a special order paint 71 Judge convert that is probably almost done being restored. I think it is close to a Camaro color Rally Green? It has a white top and Ivory interior and was ordered for a Florida dealer to pay special tribute to the Florida Gators if I remember the story correctly.