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Great....Norwood trim and Van Nuys VIN.....what the heck are they thinking.
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There are more faked Big Block Chevelles, Big Block Camaros, Z28s and 1967 435 HP Corvettes than the real thing.
Let us not forget the LS-6 Chevelle. I can't wait to see how many times I get to say, "I told you so." [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif[/img] Likely 40-50% of these cars are also fake today.
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Rick Nelson Musclecar Restoration and Design, Inc (retired) www.musclecarrestorationanddesign.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62r-6vgk2_8 specialized in (only real) LS6 Chevelle restorations |
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<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>
He has 68-81 Corvettes nearly done, plans on releasing it first, followed by 63-67, followed by 54-62 Corvettes. I heard that Alan Colvin is involved with this project? Anyone know if this is true? <hr></blockquote> Would this possibly be in conjunction with Colvin's new "Corvette by the Numbers" book? Possibly one hand washed the other. |
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Keith,
Fakes and fraud have been a problem for a long time and it is much more prevalent than most people want to believe. I won't mention any names, but recently a seasoned collector went 0 for 3 of his last muscle car purchases. One was a Dodge one was a Ford and one a Chevy. All were documented to a degree and two were restored many years ago, none of the three started life as they were represented and all were purchased from different parties. While this is an extreme situation, the Fakes had to exist in order for him to have made the mistake. Two of the three had gone from one collection to another over many years and believed to be genuine. Canadian Muscle cars and Super Cars sell very quickly around here, due to the GM of Canada Documentation. |
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As a "cloner" not a "faker" I look forward to Jim's documentation. Maybe that will lift the veil of doubt, when guys like me say they have no intention of defrauding anyone.
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<font color="red">I know of a First Gen Camaro right now sitting in a body shop that is being built as a SS396, he also has 2 parts cars in the back 40. Guy is a body shop owner and long time worker for a defunct GM dealership. He has been hunting the parts etc for several years now. He is very knowledgeable about the GM body codes and tags etc. He was just bragging to me that he was building an SS. He does not care its a clone, he only in it for the money. When I bugged him about it not being a real SS, he says "It will be when I am done". He has built other cars in the past and sold them, one was a phoney 1970 Chevelle SS. The person who bought that one was a former coworker of his and knew it was not an SS but he takes it to all the local cars shows purporting it to be a real SS396.
There are a lot of persons out there that are of the opinion that to be a SS, all you need is the emblems, bucket seats and a floor shifter. Many just don't care one way or the other. I often here someone say, its my car and I can do what I want with it. I don't like the word clone because its often blurred when the car is sold, so the new owner now purports the car as real. Unless the person doing the cloning is putting something permanent on the car that states its a clone. Most if not all won't do that.</font color>
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NEW cars I had.. 66 Impala SS396 70 Chevelle SS 454 72 El Camino SS350 73 Chevelle SS350 |
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I'm building a Yenko clone with factory air. That's pretty permanent.
I offered several years ago to develop and maintain a "Clone Registry" on this site. That way current cloners, not intrested in disguise, could register their car. Potential buyers could check the list before laying down big money for a potential purchase. Tom elected not to take me up on my offer. |
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Clones are not just happening to these old cars either. There was a 96 Z28, the guy was selling as a limited edition 96 SS. It did not have the SLP sticker or build number. It did have (from the pictures) SS spoiler, hood and decals. This was on ebay and fetched SS sells price. To the person that didn't know better thought he was getting a real 96 SS when he was getting a clone.
As an owner of a true 96 SS it upset me som'n fierce, cuz it looked just like mine. CLONING IS WRONG WHETHER HUMAN OR CARS! But that is another debate.
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Stranger,
Got any art in your house? Are they originals, or prints? Got any furniture "in the style" of 18th century? Just curious. |
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Unreal, You are more then welcome to do a "clone" registry, but the sYc will not be involved. One of the main objectives of the sYc is to help seperate the real ones from the rest, not bring them together. If we did, here is what would happen, "For sale, 1972 Yenko Nova, registered with the sYc". No thanks, I have enough to do as it is. Tom
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