How Many Where Original Yenkos??

[copolocater]

No. 1 There is no way to count,calculate or even put together a list of all remaining original engine yenkos.You would have to pay a guy like Kurt, or someone knowledgable in deck stamping , to travel the country for the next 5 years to physically look at each individual car.So lets get serious the question is unanswerable.No. 2 If you owned a yenko with a non matching motor you'd try your hardest to explain to the guy your selling it to that it isn't worth any less than a matching No. car it's the body that counts and the paperwork.I personally don't concern myself with it ,I'm more concerned the car was saved.As was stated numerous motors were exploded after purchase.As was learned last year with a matching motored yenko that was exploded the second day of purchase reappeared with a matching motor and nobody ever suspected until the original owner showed up.Wether it has an original motor the only time some people care is if they are purchasing the car. Evidently there must be some sort of mystery because sixtiesmuscle already stated it's impossible to tell and that wasn't acceptable. I'll try to answer any question reasonably,but if it's going to create some controversy like this one I'm done.

[Jeff H]

I don't see where there would be any controversy. If actual owner's wanted to answer his question on an individual basis, then maybe there would be some sort of estimate that could be made. I'm sure somebody has a pretty good list of which of the ZL1's still have their original engine. It's the sharing of information that make boards like this so beneficial.

[Stefano]

The best answer has been provided, no one can know for certain and the guestimate which was provided by Sixties Muscle is as accurate as can be expected given the circumstances provided. That is it no more no less. The COPO Gods do not stand at the entrance to the convention centers to dertermine who should be let in or left out based on how accurate the cars broach marks appear to be.

If you think the Reunion was about trying to figure out whose numbers matched and whose didn't I would believe that you missed the spirit of what the reunion and the Super Cars is all about.

[Rat_Pack]

Bud, your question is easily understood but like the others say hard to answer. Last years reunion proved that even a real Yenko could have a restamped engine. It all started when a once respected Yenko expert showed up with a 69 Yenko that he claimed was original & unrestored. Well it was pretty much that, original & unrestored, other than the engine. If it was not for the original owner of the car in question showing up at the show with the Yenko he traded the questioned car in on, it would have probably never been questioned. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] He had the paperwork for both cars and he told the story of how he had punched a hole in the side of the block the first night he had the car in question. He then traded the "blown up" car in for another Yenko the next day or two. This was not a good situation for the guy claiming his car still had the original engine it, but he could have avoided this by saying it was a "correct" 427 but had been restamped. Like copolocator says, most people would not care anyways..........................RatPack.......... ......

[NewbieYenko]

Well people rather have a orignal motor Yenko rather than one thats not orignal and i think it does matter because of value????

While the apparent tone and maybe the wording of the inital question was not best the actual question is extremely relevant. If one figures that it doesn't matter then the pricing for a supposed "original" motored car and a non-original car would be the exact same. Any onwer of any collectible car, especially a hi-po car, will tell you there is a difference. Hell, carry it one step further and say then that since original motors don't matter then un-restored and restored cars are worth the same, since it is still a Yenko....or that a car with 100 original miles and one with 100,000 miles are worth the same...get the point. The question and resulting answers have more do to with individual owners maybe feeling "slighted," because there is a difference in the way the cars are perceived within the hobby (ie: an original motored car is always more desrirable than the same car without its original motor).

[copolocater]

I think you guys should pay better attention to this copo market.Nobodys paying any less for a non original motor yenko.Watch the next non original motor yenko come up for sale at the price of a matching motor.GONEEEEEEEE. THE PEOPLE I KNOW JUST WANT ONE!!!I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERANCE BUT THE MARKET DOESN'T BEAR IT.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Maybe that is because most of the Yenko Camaros that have been for sale don't have their orig. engines. We would have to wait for a truly doc'd orig. drivetrain car to come available for sale before you could make comparisons. I think the same cars have been trading hands very quickly over the last 2 years, the best cars have been kept under wraps.

Not to rain on someone's parade, but that is ignorant. The Speculators out there are the ones moving the market up to inflated prices...actually some major specualtors on this board. The same thing happened in the late '80's early '90's...guys were out there dropping mad money on cars only to have the cars drop like a brick in a few years. I can appreciate the wanting to own a Yenko, however being realistic about the whole thing, and not left holding the bag is better in my book. If you don't believe the market will drop again, then go to the BJ auction site and look at what these same cars sold for in the '80's and then sold for again in the mid '90's. Quite a difference. Also one must keep in mind that the asking price and the actual transaction price are in most cases different.

I second that Marlin...like a lot of truly original cars these days I would guess the best examples are not being sold.