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If Chevy built L89 Camaros and Chevelles it is not difficult to believe they would have sold a few L89 Novas, but I don't remember seeing any.
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What about '68 L89 Novas? Anything after the initial COPO Gibb Novas for a/t L89's?? This is a real gray area!!
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Are you running for bragging rights or $$$$$$ If there is big $$$$ involved the prerace is probally best. But if it is just bragging rights what would it matter if it is after? One thing about it if they do pre-race tear-downs a good mechanic will be worth a premium price. ![]()
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Then maybe GM sold a few 427 Novas in '69
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I hope that this race stays "for the bragging rights". Take it from someone who watches two days of bracket racing every week! There is nothing more sad than watching someone show up once a year for a specific show (like a Chevy, Ford, or Mopar specifc event)and to watch them get "taken out" by a "regular" or a "every weekend" racer who wins by sand-bagging and riding the brakes thru the lights. When I point out that that is a worthless victory the "regular" usually says 'Hey dude money is money'. THAT STINKS! Keep the event PURE. Don't have money changing hands or being put into a purse it clouds everything. I like to watch the "Class Run Offs" or "Record Runs" in NHRA Stock Class, you can keep the rest of the bracket racing. No Thanks. The point I am trying to get across is don't let this great "heads up", "run because you really care" event get ruined (like everything else has already).Keep it pure and support it!
Now back to the L-89 Nova. In the current issue of "Muscle Car Review" (November 2000) page 64, there is a picture of an L-89 1968 Camaro SS? Has anyone heard of a factory SS 396 68' Camaro? I have seen a real SS 396 1969 Camaro.What is with the L-89 option showing up in all of these cars? I know that in 68' I was told that Corvettes had aluminum heads but that was it. I am lost someone fill me in please. Andrew |
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I attended the Pure Stock drags at the Motorplex in September. Just couldn't believe how fast those Buicks were, and I seem to remember one red L78 Camaro that was cutting some blazing times. While I agree that it would be neat to verify a stock car and keep that class separate, I like the subtle (?) tweaking that the owners do to get their stock appearing, stock sounding musclecars to run deep in the 12s.
I can't really criticize, since my 70 SS Chevelle is far from finished. I'd certainly like to run it in the PSMCDR when it's all done. |
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Bob and Dan hope to eliminate any gray areas. Any questionable cars, such as COPO cars, will need to provide documentation to prove their legality. Thus, unless something new is found, no L-89 '68 Novas, no '69 427 Novas, etc. Cloned cars are legal, BUT must provide documentation that they are legit. As Rob mentioned, until you get involved, you can not imagine what goes on. The Buick and Studebacker clubs are already hard at work building even faster cars for 2001, doing whatever it takes to go faster. And when I say whatever, I mean whatever, such as a Stude with a Mopar head! I guess what is it gets down to is our Chevy/Yenko pride. We will race anyone they pair us up with, Buick, Stude, Mopar, etc., but we want to be running under the same rules. As per prerace teardown, that will be a big pain in the " ", but once done, we can then race knowing that whatever happens, win or lose, it truley was Pure Stock Drag racing. The event was started to allow a place for people with stock, original musclecars to get together and have fun. It was NOT started to provide a place for cloned muscle/race cars to race, even though they are welcome, if legal. Look at it this way, would anyone want to see a "cloned" supercar race a real supercar at the Supercar Reunion? The cloned car would most likely win, but who cares, that is not intent of either event. What makes the PSMCDR special is the chance to see many, many pure stock musclecars from the various automakers perform. On a side note, some day we hope that they might add a class for dealer prepared cars, such as Yenkos, B-M cars, Harrell/Gibb cars, Tasca, Grand Spaulding, etc. Would not that be fun to watch? Tom
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I agree!!
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Concerning the PSMCDR Drag Racing Association and the legality of what can run in this event, in my opinion has nothing to do with what may be a clone, but rather if the questioned car is legal for what is claimed. This discussion centers around the L-89 Nova. Did Cheverolet ever build a L-89 Nova in 1968, or any other year, though 68 is the year of discussion? All the documentation I have does not mention any 68 L-89 Novas, though it is possible, but until there is proof Chevrolet built any that was available to the general public, I would have a hard time believing it should run in a Pure Stock event. There are a couple of factors to think about on this, Aluminum heads would get about 100lbs off the front end, giving better weight transfer and another advantage would be, if not mistaken, the exhaust valves were larger in the 842 heads. If I remember correctly, the 840 heads had 1.72" exhausts and the 842 heads had 1.84". If these cars were being built in 68, I believe Fred Gibb would have used this option on the 50 COPO Novas, as they were built to race, this being a weight saving option if for nothing else? Hurriedly, I looked at the information I have on the L-89
Option and I could not come up with any L-89 Novas even in 69? I have seen several claims there were 311 69 Novas built with this option, but I think they are confused with the 69 Camaro, as this is the number I have for them? My thought is, Can any be documented with factory paperwork? If not, it should not be allowed to run. |
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