CAMARO SHOW

[copo69]

I was addressing the gold, silver, bronze judging, not the diamond. By participants judging it became a show & shine as the judges were instructed not to judge correctness only cleanliness and if the item was present. This was lauded as a "standard"? I mean if you cannot judge correctness at a Camaro only show then where should/could this be judged? As far as the diamond class goes I think someone having a car of this caliber should know correctness, his car's pedigree, and I understand the "trophys don't mean much", also. I agree with Micky on this count. I don't understand why that person would pay $100., let alone $700. Maybe cars of this caliber should be free, as examples for display, juried prior to the show. I really enjoyed the cars on the concourse at Indy Super Chevy a few years ago as Brian Caudill's concept of this was well received by participants and spectators.
Maybe the ACES growth and popularity could be a model for the club as the old way has failed...twice. I don't know much about the Chevelle clubs but it looks like they (ACES) are succeeding as opposed to some other national clubs.

[micky69396]

Brians deal at Super Chevy was great. We did it 1 or 2 times and enjoyed it. It would be nice if ACES would do a formal judging, but I doubt it will happen anytime soon as Chuck wants to keep it a "get together" rather than a competition. I really dont see the NCOA being around much longer either. It will either go away or start up with new leadership. Just my opinion.

[bkhpah]

The Diamond judging is for those who want to know exactly where their cars stand. That is why it takes so long to look at one. The Diamond class is not for everyone and it never will be. It takes a great amount af time and money to construct a Diamond level car. The judging at an AACA event does not even come close to Diamond. I don't think that anyone that had their car Diamond judged thought it was a waste of time. Judging is an ever evolving thing. We learn more all the time and have to apply it when things are found to be true. That may be one reason that cars do better one year than the next. Many may have thought the cars would do better, but everyone thinks that. Not only is the cosmetic aspect of the car looked at, the components are looked at as well. This is not Show and Shine. There are standards that a Camaro must exhibit to be considered. The main concern I have is the amount of work placed on so few judges. More qualified people need to step up and participate. This is a thankless job for the most part. But I feel that all the peoples cars that we judged felt that the cars were treated with respect and fairly evaluated. At least the cars that our team did. Anyone have a different opinion? I can handle critisism. The Supercar Reunion should be geared toward a fun event. I really don't care who has the best hose clamp at this event.. If you are wanting to know whats is right with your car there will be plenty of good people at the event to help you with your questions without the pressure of judging.
BKH

[sYc]

What we are seeing now is typical of the automotive hobbby. Trends. When muscle cars first appeared, the 60s-70s, you did not have national judged shows. The shows were at your local "burger place". One did not worry about correctness, your main concern was to be noticed, either through flexing your muscle(horsepower) or through your
car's looks. Then in the 80s-90s, regional and national shows became the place to be. Here everyone wanted the perfect 1000 point car. Thus, the beginning of trailer queens. One could (and can) attend a major show almost every weekend. That is the reason many owners experience burnout after a couple of years showing a top end car. They have more trophies then they can count and are tired of constantly cleaning (detailing) their car. Now, in the year 2000, we have come full circle. We are going back to our roots. At almost every show, you are seeing more and more classes for "street cars", ones that are driven on a regular basis. Almost all shows now include a cruise, and some are doing like the Supercar Reunion and are even going to a local racetrack. If national shows are to survive, then they will need to change. That is the way it is and the way it will always be. There will always be a place for the top end, perfect cars,and owners who want to see how their cars compare to others, but right now the majority of owners would rather have a car that they can both show and drive, versus just show. Tom