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View Poll Results: How would you restore these race cars if you found one of them.
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Old 01-25-2023, 11:46 AM
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It would always be a race car to me.
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I say there’s plenty of fully restored cars out there and limited old warriors I’d leave them in race car apparel!
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I would lean toward restoring as delivered, unless it was a significant race car with great history.

If it was just tired looking race car I'd leave it alone and preserve. Nothing wrong with a little patina and preserving history.
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As much as I like an era-correct untubbed race car restoration, if it’s anything besides a top tier, nationally known car (Sox and Martin, Grumpys Toy, Gas Ronda, etc), I don’t think it makes as much sense financially to restore to as-raced condition vs. as-delivered new. More buyers relate to it as a stock musclecar vs as a regionally campaigned race car.
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Old 01-25-2023, 02:46 PM
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Member R68GTO's resto of his '69 9561 Copo 'Rat's Nest' is a great example of this exact situation, click here...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=149308

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Member R68GTO's resto of his '69 9561 Copo 'Rat's Nest' is a great example of this exact situation, click here...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=149308

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Agreed that is a good example . Although idk if that car was a dealer car w factory back door support or not I didn’t read the whole story of the car
Many of the dealer cars were special ordered and supported even with the racing ban in effect.

Sox and Martin was a different story as were most of the hemi cars because they had full factory support as they didn’t adhere to any racing ban. It pretty much was just GM w handcuffs on pretending not to okay that game while some at the factory were supporting the cars “on their own time” these guys back sorted alot of engineering pats out to dealer owned race cars. In the Pontiac world these were royal, knafel, Stephen , towne , garber, and a host of others. I’d imagine the olds world brainbeau and others were supported much the same way chevys were through copo and motion, Berger, yenko

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https://youtu.be/aQbIwjBXQKA

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Of a dealer owned factory supported car through the back door system
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My first preference would be to restore it as the original race car unless that paint scheme (livery) or some other feature of its looks was something that I just couldn't stomach.
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----As far as Pontiacs are concerned the Chicago Area Dealers Asso. 69 Judge that Arnie B campaigned would be a good example of a specially ordered race car. No undercoat, no sealer and other mods done before delivery for the absolute lowest weight possible! That car, I believe, is restored back to as raced condition!.....Bill S

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It seems that the consensus is these each cars should be handled on a case by case basis. Sometimes these famous race cars were built on 6 cylinder production cars and it would make zero sense to restore to as delivered. Also depends on condition . some racecars are to far gone to feasibly restore to original.
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If the car is still in race car trim, I'd like to see it kept that way.

R68's approach was a good one I thought, vinyl decals that can be removed but is running day 2 parts. A person could paint up two hoods, a racing era hood and a stock one. Have two sets of wheels.

I like GM cars and Camaros the most, but I also like other cars like the Thunderbolt. Some of them have not been restored to original, and I'd personally prefer something like the Nazy Crate over one that has lost all it's livery.
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