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Old 12-17-2015, 03:07 PM
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The restoration was covered in the October 1994 Chevy High Performance. At that time it did have a few deviations from original build configuration:

Goodyear Polyglas tires
Chambered exhaust
TN rear shock decals [should be UN]

The current trim height does not appear to be correct. A ZL1 is slightly heavier than a small block so dialing it in, particularly in front, takes some work. Not a big deal.

One of the nicest OE drivetrain ZL1 restorations out there. Should do well.
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Old 12-17-2015, 03:11 PM
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auction estimates 900k-1.2 mil ????.....nice color and a stick, but that still seems way high unless prices have really jumped in the recent past. Does OE motor make that much difference in price of these cars? Unless I'm out of touch ????

any opinions on value? or actual gavel sale price ?
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Old 12-17-2015, 03:52 PM
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The #6 ZL1 hammered for $650,000 last spring, a Cortez Silver automatic. Restored, known history, OE drivetrain, never raced. One school of thought, automatics [22] are rarer than 4-speeds. We'll see.

ZL1s are no different than any other muscle car. The original engine makes the car more desirable and valuable. In addition to the usual casting date and VIN stamp, ZL1 blocks were cast and machined in sequence. You could have an NOS 1969 block casting and it may not even be close to correct for a particular VIN. There's more of course.

Word to the wise, don't even bother re-stamping a ZL1 block.
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Default Re: Mecum zl1 #30 at Kissimmee

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The #6 ZL1 hammered for $650,000 last spring, a Cortez Silver automatic. Restored, known history, OE drivetrain, never raced. One school of thought, automatics [22] are rarer than 4-speeds. We'll see.

ZL1s are no different than any other muscle car. The original engine makes the car more desirable and valuable. In addition to the usual casting date and VIN stamp, ZL1 blocks were cast and machined in sequence. You could have an NOS 1969 block casting and it may not even be close to correct for a particular VIN. There's more of course.

Word to the wise, don't even bother re-stamping a ZL1 block.

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Having owned one of the original block ZL-1's for many years, I learned alot about the sequencing...I have a small database of the sequence numbers, dates, stampings, , etc of the'dated' blocks..just wish I paid more attention early on.

... but, an automatic on the column??? ..Don't know what school they are from?? haha
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Old 12-17-2015, 05:44 PM
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Not all that unusual in our world. A good bud had a column auto '69 Road Runner new and I still think it is a neat car. Many Hemi Mopars and a few LS6 Chevelles are column auto; most automatic '69 Yenko Camaros were built that way and converted to the Hurst Dual-Gate. Hot Rod tested a '69 Nova SS L78 back in the day; bench seat column auto.

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Don ..the emissions decal as I know it for an iron block L72 should be CH. I am not sure what was used on the aluminum ZL1
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The Body Broadcast Copies for ZL1s #1 &amp; #2 list CH.
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Very interesting Doug and William. Must have been for COPO Camaros only and not used on COPO Chevelles. The one COPO Chevelle build sheet I have on file has &quot;---&quot; in box 104 (tune up label). As I mentioned earlier, survivor 69 COPO Chevelles do not have the label on the upper rad support.

It would be nice to know if Chevy altered the &quot;CH&quot; label for the Camaro L72's and ZL1's. The engine size was not shown on that label, but the horsepower was.

Appreciate the input. Sorry if I have redirected this thread from the original posting topic.
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ZL1s are no different than any other muscle car. The original engine makes the car more desirable and valuable. In addition to the usual casting date and VIN stamp, ZL1 blocks were cast and machined in sequence. You could have an NOS 1969 block casting and it may not even be close to correct for a particular VIN. There's more of course.

Word to the wise, don't even bother re-stamping a ZL1 block


I don't recall &quot;cast in sequence&quot; William - but I didn't follow the cores &amp; patterns to the casting plants. The parting lines and flow-offs were altered between nearly every casting run due to air entrapment &amp; porosity. So it's pretty easy to spot blocks from different runs.
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.... If you were buying only 1 ZL-1

.... Hugger Orange

.... 4 speed

.... Original drivetrain

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