MOTION FIREBIRD

[motionbird]

Thank you. At this time i'm just interasted in restoring the car.

[Pulnaway]

In order for the car to bring the money, the restoration needs to be top notch. Do you intend to send it out to be restored or are you up to the task? There is no set amount on how much to spend. You need to spend what it takes to finish the car correctly.

[SS427]

The first thing you need to consider before you start, are you restoring the car for your own personal collection and intend on keeping it or are you going to sell it soon after the restoration? If you intend to keep it then I do not believe getting a value of the car post restoration should be a true deciding factor. Many people spend $70k on a one ton dually F350 only to watch it depreciate drastically the moment they drive it off the lot whereas your car will likely appreciate every day from the restoration forward. Depending on what you paid for the car I think you will be ok even with a concours restoration.

[MosportGreen66]

From what I remember on this car, it was a project car sitting outside for a long while. Could be the Firebird on the cover of the Pontiac Performance Guide and Catalog. Documented both by Joel and the original work order. LS6, aluminum heads, Th400, currently red, black interior, no L88 hood, don't remember if it had pipes...

This car is identical in build to the "Rat Bird" which just traded hands last for like $45,000. Your gauge should be some where around that mark. This is odd ball and while rare, it does not mean desirable. Just in the nature of the Chevy vs. Pontiac argument, I surmise a Camaro is going to be worth 25% more.

Dan

[motionbird]

Out of curiosity how do you know so much information about my car. I never posted this information.Wher did you get your information from?

[ANDY M]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: motionbird</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Out of curiosity how do you know so much information about my car. I never posted this information.Wher did you get your information from? </div></div>

There are people here who are so close to information overload that you wouldn't want to stand near them. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

[x Baldwin Motion]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ANDY M</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: motionbird</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Out of curiosity how do you know so much information about my car. I never posted this information.Wher did you get your information from? </div></div>

There are people here who are so close to information overload that you wouldn't want to stand near them. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] </div></div>


&quot;....many have forgotten more than I'll ever know&quot;

[Lynn]

This one is tough to peg.
Most Pontiac purists aren't in the market for a 454 powered Firebird, even if it is a Motion car. Most chevy guys want.... well, a Chevy. Then you have the whole &quot;big bumper&quot; thing. Many guys just won't consider anything after 73.

So... if you are planning to sell, you are going to have a limited market. That normally means less $. However, if it is in an auction, it just takes two to drive the price up.

I don't believe anyone can give you an accurate &quot;finished&quot; number. Too many variables. You may have posted this already, but does it have the engine that Joel installed? If not, the price just went way down, in my opinion.

If you like the car and want to keep it, I don't know that it matters THAT MUCH what it is worth other than for insurance purposes. You can get a policy from one of the classic car insurers for any reasonable amount.

If you are wanting maximum return on your investment, then I am betting you are going to make the most money selling it as is to a Motion freak.

[StealthBird]

Agree 100% with Lynn. Very well said. Pontiac collectors have very little interest in any Chevy powered Pontiacs (at least the pre-1982 era) and Chevy collectors would only be interested in the Motion connection as it pertains to Motion history, not to the whole Chevrolet/Motion mystique.

The car would draw leers at any Pontiac show, regardless of the Motion connection, because nothing offends a Pontiac, Buick, or Oldsmobile fan more than seeing a Chevy engine under the hood, even if it's a nasty LS6. It would be like buying an autographed football with Hank Aaron's autograph on it.

As for value, recall the 1975 Yenko Trans Am that proved to be a really tough sell, or the 70 Buick Motion GSX.

[Tracker1]

<span style="font-style: italic">As for value, recall the 1975 Yenko Trans Am that proved to be a really tough sell</span>

that car is a good benchmark for the discussion here. had a ton of paperwork - no sale at $82,500