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Old 11-16-2013, 10:20 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's unfortunate if you don't have to reimburse the guy who did all of that work to the car before you get it back. He didn't know any better. </div></div>

Why should have to reimburse anyone for work that he never authorized ?
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Old 11-16-2013, 10:34 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Why should have to reimburse anyone for work that he never authorized ? </div></div>

Maybe its just because I wouldn't be able to sleep at night with that car in my garage and someone else's time and money into it and me having zero into that work. Doesn't matter how it went down.
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Old 11-16-2013, 10:40 PM
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I agree with Lillard. Under the law the possessor is as good as the thief. I am surprised this went on as long as it did before he relinquished control of the vehicle.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Theft Defined Under Georgia Law</span>


Theft can occur in a variety of ways under Georgia law. The most common type of theft involves theft by taking, which Georgia statute defines as occurring when a person “unlawfully takes<span style="font-weight: bold"> or, being in lawful possession thereof, unlawfully appropriates any property of another with the intention of depriving him of the property, regardless of the manner in which property is taken or appropriated.”</span> (Georgia Code § 16-8-2.)

Georgia law also provides for several other types of theft, including:
theft by deception (§ 16-8-3.)
theft by conversion (§ 16-8-4.)
theft of services (§ 16-8-5.)
theft of lost or mislaid property (§ 16-8-7.)
<span style="font-weight: bold">theft by receiving property stolen in another state (§ 16-8-8.)
theft by bringing stolen property into the state (§ 16-8-9.)</span>
theft by shoplifting (§ 16-8-14.), and
theft by extortion (§ 16-8-16.).


Theft as Misdemeanor or Felony in Georgia
When a theft offense involves property valued at $500 or less, the crime is punishable as a misdemeanor in Georgia. (§ 16-8-12.) Punishment for a misdemeanor includes a fine of no more than $1,000 and a sentence of imprisonment of no more than 12 months. If an offender receives a sentence of six months or less, it is within the authority and discretion of the sentencing judge to allow the sentence to be served via weekend confinement or during the offender's nonworking hours. (§ 17-10-3.)
If the theft offense involves property valued at more than $500, the crime is punishable as a felony, or as a misdemeanor, at the judge’s discretion. (§ 17-10-5.) If charged as a felony, theft carries a sentence of imprisonment of not less than one year and not more than ten years. (§ 16-8-12.) The other circumstances under which a theft is punishable as a felony in Georgia include:
theft of anhydrous ammonia (one to ten years of imprisonment)
theft involving the breach of a fiduciary relationship (one to 15 years of imprisonment, and/or a fine)
theft of government or bank property, by an employee (one to 15 years of imprisonment, and/or a fine)
theft involving a gravesite or cemetery decoration (one to three years of imprisonment)
<span style="font-weight: bold">theft of a motor vehicle or vehicle part worth more than $100 (one to 10 years of imprisonment)</span>
theft committed while telemarketing, using a computer or computer network, or engaging in home repair or improvement (one to 10 years of imprisonment),
theft of a destructive device, explosive, or firearm (one to 10 years of imprisonment).

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Old 11-17-2013, 12:19 AM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Why should have to reimburse anyone for work that he never authorized ? </div></div>

Maybe its just because I wouldn't be able to sleep at night with that car in my garage and someone else's time and money into it and me having zero into that work. Doesn't matter how it went down. </div></div>


It would be the decent thing to do, but by no means should he be forced to reimburse the other guy. He didn't ask to have his car stolen.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:42 AM
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Again, good reason for getting clean title and checking paperwork against vin tag. You would be shocked how many cars have come into the store and when we check the vin and title find a typo in the vin, or vin tag missing or obviously tampered with and the owners never knew. I just direct them to the DMV or CHP to get cleaned up. In the early 80's I bought a motorcycle that seemed like a decent deal and the guy said it was en-route. What was en-route were the cops about 2 weeks later to pick up the stolen bike. Nothing I could do but hand it over and suffer the loss. Learned my lesson to get the title when I purchase.
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:02 AM
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Years ago a good friend bought a 58 Fuel Injected Vette that needed restoring. It was missing the FI unit but orig engine was still in it. He stripped it to bare glass, body off frame. frame stripped. Two years into it the Highway patrol knocks on his door and asks if he has 58 Vette with Viv # ****. He says yes. Cop says it is stolen. Sal says no it is in the garage. Cop says orig owner has been out of state for two years and when he came home his Vette and 57 Porsche Speedster were both stolen out of storage containers. He had bought both brand new. Porsche had been totally restored and had sold for 70K a couple times. Whoever stole them thought he had died so they never bothered to mess with the vins so they were easy to find. He got a like new Porsche back and he came to the impound yard and saw the Vette all apart and didn't know what to do with it. I bought it from him and my friend that lost it filed suit against the local Ford dealer that was involved in the lien sale that got the cars titled.
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:51 AM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427freak</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Again, good reason for getting clean title and checking paperwork against vin tag. You would be shocked how many cars have come into the store and when we check the vin and title find a typo in the vin, or vin tag missing or obviously tampered with and the owners never knew. I just direct them to the DMV or CHP to get cleaned up. In the early 80's I bought a motorcycle that seemed like a decent deal and the guy said it was en-route. What was en-route were the cops about 2 weeks later to pick up the stolen bike. Nothing I could do but hand it over and suffer the loss. Learned my lesson to get the title when I purchase. </div></div>

I meant to say the guy said the 'Title' was en-route. Sorry
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:45 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: combackcamaro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I 'm not sure how to upload puctures. no insurance was a drag car. therefor have not collected any insurance. I have been study reseaching email &amp; today got a call the police where car is found stolen has been recovered by police. and so far what I am gathering is.. sadly for him thank god for me is any investments put into car he the purchaser has to go back after the seller.
I will know more on monday morning. </div></div>


I think this sucks for the guy who invested thousands of dollars into the car with his 16yo son. So you are OK with getting\taking 13k in upgrades on a car you said was worth 2500?

In My (not so) Humble Opinion, it is morally (I know not legally) wrong for you to keep the parts that this guy and his 16yo son put on the car.

You should either let them pay you the 2500 you said that car was worth, maybe 500 more for your troubles, or let them take the parts off the car that they put on after it was bought.

IMO, that would be the <span style="font-style: italic">right</span> thing to do.....

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Old 11-18-2013, 01:04 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69LM1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: combackcamaro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I 'm not sure how to upload puctures. no insurance was a drag car. therefor have not collected any insurance. I have been study reseaching email &amp; today got a call the police where car is found stolen has been recovered by police. and so far what I am gathering is.. sadly for him thank god for me is any investments put into car he the purchaser has to go back after the seller.
I will know more on monday morning. </div></div>


I think this sucks for the guy who invested thousands of dollars into the car with his 16yo son. So you are OK with getting\taking 13k in upgrades on a car you said was worth 2500?

In My (not so) Humble Opinion, it is morally (I know not legally) wrong for you to keep the parts that this guy and his 16yo son put on the car.

You should either let them pay you the 2500 you said that car was worth, maybe 500 more for your troubles, or let them take the parts off the car that they put on after it was bought.

IMO, that would be the <span style="font-style: italic">right</span> thing to do.....

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Old 11-18-2013, 01:17 PM
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What is this Little league? Everyone gets a trophy? It appears to be a stolen car, STOLEN PROPERTY...He apparently own's it. The one who invested in stolen property loses, sad but true,a hard expensive lesson to learn. He may be a great guy, BUT..

Make sure you buy a car with a clean title. I've bought 100's...if something is fishy, I walk...no.. I run away!

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