69 hemi road runner

[American Muscle]

Some extra info I know so far from seller has told me

''It has the belt and rocker moldings
It also has the light package (fender mounted turn signals, trunk light, glove box light, etc) AM/8 track (three speaker dash), clock, full horn ring (someone cut it down)

rear speaker AND rear defog
The original package tray (with factory holes) is still in the car, as well as the defog vent and tube, and the switches are still under the dash.

As I had already stated, this car was originally R6 scorch red with premium black bench seat interior. It has manual steering and manual brakes (kinda odd considering everything else) and column shift auto with an 8.75" rear end. It also did NOT have a vinyl top from the factory.''


Thank you

[jannes_z-28]

Cars intended for strip use was often ordered with drumbrakes without power and no power steering. A lot of Hemi cars is like this.

Drumbrakes has less drag than discbrakes and power steering robs power.

Jan

[njsteve]

That's a lot of really bad rust there. Unless the original engine comes with the car and you do sheetmetal work yourself and have the NOS body panels already, I would pass on this one. You will be double-upside down in terms of expenses versus actual value long before the car is halfway done.

Just from the photos, it needs a trunk floor, all interior floors, full quarters, trunk weatherstrip channels, trunk drop offs, rear window filler panel, doors...

Looks like the area on the rear trunk weatherstrip channel where the partial VIN would have been is already rusted away and gone. All those pine needles are a very bad sign. That stuff is like acid when it is allowed to sit on the car and hold moisture.

On the plus side, the VIN tag and rivits look legit and not monkeyed with.

As for the manual drum brakes on these cars - the fact that they had them has far more to do with the expense of the power disc brake option package than any rumors of it being intended as a drag car. Depending upon the model, the hemi engine could have been close to a $900 option. That left little room for anything else if you were on a budget back then. And if I recall correctly, to get the power disc, you had to order the Super Track Pak which included a bunch of other mandatory options raising the option price higher still.

[king_midas]

Oh my God, what a mess...

[Big Block Bill]

My car was also a manual steering / manual brake / 8.75 rear car. I sure scavenged a few rear ends out of bone yards in the time I owned it.

It also had the air grabber induction system, but with the Rat Roaster intake, I had to remove all the hardware / air cleaner, ect, and adjust the rear of the hood way up so it would close.

I thought all Hemi / Automatic cars had the 8.75 rear, and you could only get a Dana in a Drag Pack equiped 4 speed car.

Bill Pankiw

[HPMIKE]

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My car was also a manual steering / manual brake / 8.75 rear car. I sure scavenged a few rear ends out of bone yards in the time I owned it.

It also had the air grabber induction system, but with the Rat Roaster intake, I had to remove all the hardware / air cleaner, ect, and adjust the rear of the hood way up so it would close.

I thought all Hemi / Automatic cars had the 8.75 rear, and you could only get a Dana in a Drag Pack equiped 4 speed car.

Bill Pankiw

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In 1969, a "Super Performance Axle" pkg equipped, auto trans car would have come with a 4.10 Dana and 4 piston Bendix power disc brakes. if the car was a 4 speed, the package was called "Super Track Pack".

As for the car, I agree with the others. This is a project of epic proportions. On the positive side, AMD makes just about all of the metal needed to resurrect that car. And at the end of the day, it's a real hemi car in a VERY desirable R6 red color, as such, it should be saved.

MB

[American Muscle]

Thanks for your help guys.

My main concern is, Does she seem to be a real-deal hemi car?

Shes a mess but I'm willing to take her on as I have time on my side, And understand its going to be a painstaking ordeal, But even more so If she turns out not to be a hemi.

Thank you

[njsteve]

Need to see photos of the front mounting area of the rear leaf springs, underhood shot of the underside of the hood, the firewall, the engine mounting area of the K-member.

As I said earlier, the dash VIN is correct for a hemi car and the rivets look untouched so that is a good sign.

Time being on your side is always good. I hope that money is on your side too since this car will cost at least $100K to restore properly.

If I may be so bold, how much are you paying for the car?

You can PM me if you want. Happy to assist.

[gb70]

If you choose to get it I would be on the hunt for a solid donor car. You would be cheaper then buying after market sheet metal and could use a lot of misc. parts as well from what I can see.

Does the seller have the original engine and transmission? If not that needs to be considered as to the buy price. Does the seller have a broadcast sheet to the car? I did not see a picture of the fender tag or door sticker with VIN either. Does it have it?

As someone has mentioned be sure that you check the radiator support, back trunk lid on below the gasket, for the partial vin numbers.

I too am curious as to what he is asking, not interested myself but curious if you are getting a fair deal. I have restored mostly E bodies, Challengers, and Cudas, but have done B bodies, Chargers, and a Superbee. Never had a road runner though.

[HPMIKE]

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If you choose to get it I would be on the hunt for a solid donor car.

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Folks, this is the BEST advice yet, and I wholeheartedly agree.

It kinda sucks to cut up a nice original car,but lets say you find a really clean, rust free, lil old lady Belvedere and you g=had to pay, like say, 15K you will be way ahead in the end. And it will make the car a reality without breaking the bank too much.

MB