Wrecked 1970 TA on ebay

[resto4u]

The only way to do that car, would be to use reproduction and rustfree used sheetmetal and do all the work yourself. Even then i think you would still be upside down. But keep it for a few years, then maybe sell. It is just one of those cars that should really be saved, but not for profit by any means of that term. Roger

[akcamaro]

If you end up buying this car, I have a very solid running 71 6cyl Bird, a perfect 72 T/A front clip, and a nice 71 black dash. And I would KILL, to get half what NJSteve is quoteing for these parts. But I am in Alaska.

Aperently I need to list this stuff on ebay, I didn't know I was sitting on a gold mine.
71 bird,
http://s95.photobucket.com/albums/l1...71%20firebird/
72 T/A front clip (the red one),
http://s95.photobucket.com/albums/l1...%20am%20parts/

[njsteve]

AK, that's some really neat stuff. I guess the deepfreeze there keeps things preserved pretty well. I dont think I've ever seen a 6 cyl Firebird before. And yes, the fenders and radiator support on that car worth some $$$. I would not part that car out, though. I also can't imagine the shipping costs of sending big parts south.

As for the parts prices, go to the forums on Performanceyears.com and check the Firebird parts wanted and for sale section. Right now there's an NOS quarter for $1800, with crating and shipping thats more than $2000 right there.

[olredalert]

-----I went to an estate auction near me several years ago on a farm. There were four 63/67 Vettes advertised in the flyer. When I got there it was plain to see that none of the cars were buildable in any sense of the word. I left soon after as I had no interest in "parts cars". I heard later thru the grapevine that the cheapest one went for $6000ish. It took me awhile but I eventually figured out that, more than likely, they were all bought for the tags and titles. I humbly suggest that this may be happening here. Somebody out there has a T/A with bad numbers and wants only the serial tag. Unfortunate!!! .......Bill S

[StealthBird]

Steve knows his stuff.

Pontiac really tried to breakout the Firebird from the Camaro early on. The 67-68 models shared many of the same parts between them, the 69 Camaro and Firebird only shared door panels and trunk lids, and the 70-up Firebird and Camaro were very different from each other. One of the problems in restoring a Firebird is that the Camaro restoration vendors decided about 15 years ago that they could market to Firebird owners by simply changing their description(s) to say "Fits Camaro/Firebird". Over the years, as more and more Firebirds were restored, owners simply went with what was cheap and convenient, what was in the catalog, and Firebird restorations became inundated with reproduction Camaro parts. And now, all these years later, some of those cars are getting re-restored, and due to aging and weathering, it's tough to know what's original and what's an older reproduction Camaro part.

As Steve stated, you can make nearly any 70-up part fit your 70 Trans Am, but for a good resto, the afficiandos will know which parts are from incorrect years, which parts are resto parts, and which parts are Camaro parts. I learn more everyday about the subtle differences between the Camaro and the Firebird. The 1969's are sort of a nightmare to restore, because they a one-year only body and interior.

[njsteve]

The Firebird people have been begging, screaming, pleading for years for someone to reproduce the 70-73 Firebird steel tail panel (which includes the rear valance as one big piece).



The ridiculous response you get from the aftermarket is this:

"Well, we make the one for the 74 to 81 cars and it doesn't sell too well, so were not going to do the 70-73 panel."

That is the stupidest reasoning I have ever heard. The 70-73 cars are the ones that people are restoring. They are the cars that are worth the most and are restored far more frequently than the later model cars but these guys just dont get it.

It's like saying you wont make 69 Camaro quarters because the 1992 quarters you make dont sell so well.

Here's the one they make for the 74 and up:

[AutoInsane]

I like this line:

"guaranteed to be maybe 1 of 10 known that are this original"

Talk abount an uncertain statement!!

[njsteve]

I didn't think it was possible, but this white one makes the blue one look semi-restorable!

Here's another delusional seller who thinks this is an easy restoration of a super rare car.

I love his statement: "WE ALL NO WHAT THESES CARS ARE WORTH SO PLEASE NO LOW BALLERS"

[BARN FIND]

Steve, he listed the carb #, is it the correct carb?

[Fast67VelleN2O]

[ QUOTE ]
Steve, he listed the carb #, is it the correct carb?

[/ QUOTE ]

7040273 is 1970 Pontiac Ram Air s/t carburetor