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Great thread! I was just going to redo my bolts, again! I glass bead and paint mine. Cast blast was OK, but not perfect. I was going to go with flat black next, but am going with this method now! thanks!
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Looks like a good idea....it would be helpful when cleaning up driver/survivor components to keep an older patina. I will try this on the next batch of hardware.
wilma
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I agree with you on these particular bolts Keith. I just wondered about other bolts in 'hi stress' applications.
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Good post Jeffrey. Thanks!
![]() How do your bolts (using yr process) stand up to moisture in the air. For example, does the absorption of the oil create a barrier or some how improve protection of the bolt from rust?
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Good post Jeffrey. Thanks! ![]() How do your bolts (using yr process) stand up to moisture in the air. For example, does the absorption of the oil create a barrier or some how improve protection of the bolt from rust? [/ QUOTE ] Sam it seems to hold off the eliments quite well, Now I do not subject any of my cars to harsh weather, (I save that for the wifes car) ![]() (survivour is my new non trademark or rights reserved way of things...)
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(survivo u r is my new non trademark or rights reserved way of things...) [/ QUOTE ] You'll still piss the 'vette dudes off! ![]()
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I wanted to suggest that Manganese Phosphate plating is/was the correct finish for many fasteners........
Below are comments from Jeff Betz..........known Camaro restorer, Carlisle judge, former GM and current Chysler engineer at eng mfg plant in metro Detroit.............. I am certain that Zinc Phosphate is not correct for the bolts. I'm also certain that the manganese phos is correct! I looked up the plating spec on bolts and believe me there are only 3 major suppliers of bolts: Ring Screw (Textron), Cold Heading, and I can't remember the other one. We still deal with them all here and nothing has changed. To each their own...so I won't tell someone how to restore their car. I will always give my opinion if asked, and will always reveal my restoration method or a better one if I know one. Good luck to your friend with the zinc plating on the fasteners. Just another side note, I believe it would be okay to dock points off a diamond car for having painted fasteners, a practice that I told you some of the "top" restorers do use. Actually zinc phosphate is an excellent plating to use on something before you paint it. It is a recommended plating to be used under painted parts. I did my door hinges in the zinc phos before I put them on the car and painted them of course. It is an excellent "primer". As far as your bolts coming out too dark? Not sure. I know some of mine are pretty dark. Your bellcrank...remember, different amounts of iron and densities of metal will plate different. The bellcrank is a tube (drawn or stamped and welded) with two stamped brackets. Notice the tube has less pores than the brackets welded on each end. That all factors in to how well they will plate. I just use one of those camping type cooktops with two propane burners. Coleman makes it. Works great. Fasteners and items that are to be somewhat "black" get the manganese phos and the latches and such get the "grey" zinc phosphate. Nice thing is different metals plate different shades of the stuff, so it doesn't all look the exact same. MANY people have found that BoeShield T-9 works very well as a rust inhibitor. Any process will need periodic maintennace to keep fresh look. Below is address for chemical supplier PALMETTO Enterprises 2311 A Old Parker Road Greenville,SC 29609 864 246 3836
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Hey Jeff, I am sending a box of stuff your way!! Thanks for the info.
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