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Old 04-06-2009, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: What is wrong with the media??

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sfprogressive
3/31/2009 9:27:31 PM

The Camaro is a car that never should have come back. The only people that like Camaros are meth using losers with mullets. As a society we need to consurve resources and making a car with a big engine just so it can do burnouts is irresponsible and wasteful. Let's hope that the new GM CEO put in place by Obama will do the right thing and stop the Camaro (and Hummers andn SUVs),



marinhottubber
3/31/2009 9:55:29 PM

The thing I love about America is there will always be some guy to say "F you" to any effort to control the totally thoughtless wasteful excessive destruction of what's left of our planet and its resources. Go ahead boys and drool over the latest macho toy from Detroit. If they made a car that got one mile to the gallon, looked like a tank and ate people while it chewed the scenery, someone would buy it while raising his middle finger to the rest of us.



kooskia
3/31/2009 10:55:56 PM

The 69 Nova "hot rod" that I drove up here to S.F. from L.A to go to school in 19 -o- 78 was, in retrospect not very good. Solid rear axel, four near useless drum brakes, very unresponsive power steering (as in a dozen spins of the wheel to make a u turn). Recently I've rented a Mustang for work, and found it to be about the same performance quality, though a bit better here and there (less crude engineering but cheaper materials). So for the Camaro, no big whoop. I'm really hoping that Detroit at least gives us if not a super-panacea-mobile like the Prius, at least something that catches our imaginations (that also isn't just a chimera). Lastly, I don't know why MM included the Corvette in his list of infamy. As much as I don't like the styling, it has evolved and improved over the decades and is actually competitive. I even know some one who's family owns one and it has been confirmed (with reservations) that it is a "real" car...



agrainofsalt
3/31/2009 11:13:00 PM

Entertaining and thought provoking as usual. Thanks Mark. There will always be a market for the muscle car, if a person wants to pay for some American horsepower, who is anyone to judge? I do agree that it is irresponsible of Chevy to revive the Camaro. Eventually, enough of the population will convert to renewable energy for essentially everything.



artsounds
3/31/2009 11:28:22 PM

Why is GM even trying? I know very few people who own or would buy an American car. I've always bought Japanese cars because they are far superior to any car that America belches out.



Pizen
4/1/2009 6:51:53 AM

Let's look past the anti-choice posture assumed by MM and the class warfare rants posted by others that seem to stereotypically link the Camaro with mullets and meth. The basic premise of the column is (or at least should be) is that the new Camaro is a POS car, coming online at precisely the wrong time. I can understand GM wanting to challenge the Ford Mustang, which appears to be an overall better car, but to me the new Camaro is emblematic of GM's R&D problems. No foresight; no imagination; no verve (soul). End result - bankruptcy, or at least that where GM needs to be. Yeah, GM builds a few decent cars (case in point, the Corvette, which in terms of value has no competition), but the company's overall approach to development seems to be stuck in the '80s. It would be interesting to see if Jobs or Wozniak would be interested in the CEO position at GM - that would shake things up.



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Old 04-07-2009, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: What is wrong with the media??

Think of it this way: news people write/cover stories tailored for their local audience. In San Fracisco this kind of "reporting" sells. In Alabama, for example, a reporter might say that the new Camaro is wonderful and that he (or she) can't wait to buy one. The SF "reporter" has succeeded in getting our attention and if he knew that a popular musclecar site was reacting negatively to his article he would probably be happy and think "mission accomplished." The one thing "reporters" like this guy is scared of is being ignored. That would be my suggestion: ignore this guy.
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