68 Grand Prix--yay or nay? - Page 2

StealthBird · #11 03-10-2009, 07:09 AM

Seller : "The only reason I think its not a HO 428 car is because you could not get air conditioning with the HO option."

He's leaving doubt. He's misleading the buyer into the possibility that somehow, someway, the car mysteriously has HO manifolds, but the 428HO option doesn't appear on the PHS.

He should have just said "I installed HO manifolds, it's a regular 428 4-speed", and left it at that.

GTO_DON · #12 03-10-2009, 07:48 AM

Mike I Own the GP and Im absolutly not trying to lead anyone. Ive listed the engine code and horsepower rating and showed my docs. You looking into it too much. I was just saying that with the amount of options this car and Ive never seen another one even close to That I would have bet it would have been an HO car if the selling dealer didnt want air conditioning. Thats just an opinion. Its still a beautiful car that I traded for a while back and if its not worth much then so be it but its still a beautiful car with no issues. As for the washer it leaked a little becuse it sat for months. Now that I fired it up and started usuing it swelled up and does not leak. Please dont bash my car!! Its really a nice car and I dont like people insinuating things. It does not have mysterious manifolds The last owner put them on with the Pypes system Its that simple and thats what i said in the ad. Ive left no doubt as ive talked to alot of people on it and I tell it like it is.

Did I talk to you today??

**Salvatore** · #13 03-10-2009, 07:58 AM

Seen this car several times. A real nice car and it sounds great to boot!

GTO_DON · #14 03-10-2009, 08:00 AM

What are you doing still awake??

Your an early riser.

442w30 · #15 03-10-2009, 08:07 AM

I don't think any of us were saying you were being misleading. I thought it was puffed up a bit, but perhaps it was just awkwardly written? Seen too many people on eBay trying to be vague about things.

StealthBird · #16 03-10-2009, 08:16 AM

Hi Don, no it wasn't me that you talked to today.

Let me back up for a second. I did NOT bash the car! In fact, I stated I thought it was very cool!

Your last comment, "I was just saying that with the amount of options this car and Ive never seen another one even close to that. I would have bet it would have been an HO car if the selling dealer didnt want air conditioning..."

I tell ya, I did not read it that way in your ad! I read it as if you didn't know WHY it had HO manifolds, and I think others (in this thread) may have read it that way too. But I understand your comment now, that you're guessing that since the car was ordered fully loaded, the only thing missing was the HO option, possibly because the owner wanted a/c. I just didn't read it that way in the ad, and if I (and others in this thread) read it that way, then I think the wording could be changed to be more clear, that's all. A little constructive criticism.

I didn't understand (or I misunderstood) the comment about the anti-freeze leak. A buyer asked if there were any leaks, and you had said "no, just the leak under the intake to timing cover."

You do appear to be very honest in disclosing everything about the car, and I applaud you for adding the potential bidders questions (and your answers) to your listing! It's obvious you DO want to be very upfront about this car. My only criticism would be to change those few things in your ad.

And as I said, this car would get a LOT of attention at cruise nights (the 68 GP around here sure does!), and I hope this Poncho goes to a good home.

GTO_DON · #17 03-10-2009, 08:30 AM

I appreciate that Mike. Its a shame It has i great home here but with things the way they are Im forced to let at least 2 cars go. I spent a ton for the impala I got a while back and funds are low.

**Charley Lillard** · #18 03-10-2009, 09:42 AM

Can I have it ? :-)

JoeG · #19 03-10-2009, 10:36 AM

I never realized how many of these big ponchos had opted for the hood mounted tach,....Car has nice lines........

HPMIKE · #20 03-10-2009, 11:02 AM

Kinda surprised at the comments. Most of the folks on here seem pretty humble and respectful. I see nothing at all that seems misleading about the ad. If he was trying to be cute, then I suppose he wouldn't have posted the docs. Just trying to put the car in the best light, I suppose. Probably should have fixed the intake leak, before posting the ad. Pontiac intakes gasket jobs are so simple. No end rails to worry about and the distributor can stay put.

Having owned a 4 gear '69 SJ428, I have a soft spot for these cars. I don't like red cars, but that's just my own opinion and doesn't make it any less of a car. I always like big cars to be dark in color or black. Almost like seeing a fat girl with a bright red outfit. Most wear black for a reason, makes them look smaller.

MB

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