Define "re-body"...

[ZL1#17]

This issue has been discussed over and over. Here is a link to a Mopar forum that some good insight on what defines a rebody.

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[WILMASBOYL78]

I think I read somewhere that Obama will be addressing this issue immediately after he is sworn in ...so don't worry, it will be all taken care of in a few days

wilma

[ORIGLS6]

re•bo•dy \ 1 : the unethical regeneration of a once classic vehicle. 2 : a term dreaded by true enthusiasts

[showyourauto]

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Lots of talk about re-bodied cars going around. Can somenone define re-body, where panel replacement ends and re-body begins? If one replaces the quarters, fenders, floor pans, trunk pan, hood and deck lid (all with GM original metal from donorcars) is this considered a re-body?

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The best definition of a rebody I have ever read comes from the 4th edition of SAAC World Registry of Cobras and GT40's (page 30). "Original/Rebodied A car having more than 50% of its original substructure or bodywork replaced, but not the main frame tubes or pieces carrying the serial stampings."

According to SAAC, an Air Car is a car built from scratch, starting out with no pieces carrying the original serial number stampings, and with no legitimate paperwork. An Air car has no claim to that VIN, either by legal ownership of major parts or paperwork.

A Reconstruction on the other hand, is a car that has been rebuilt substantially to original specifications (including replacement of main substructure or frame) but where some part of the original car existed prior to rebuild; also documentation paperwork exists (i.e. traceable bill of sale, title, registration, etc.).

If the ZL1 everyone is talking about were a Shelby, it would likely be considered an "Air Car" or a "Reconstruction" depending on the proof of VIN plate and paperwork.

These are definitions that would work well to adopt across the hobby in general. Hope that helps!

[Mark_C]

What happened to the 4 posts from the 24th?

[m22mike]

Mark

Rob explained, yesterday, in another section that the server took a dump and he had to use a back up file...must have lost some stuff.

Mike

[Douglas Willinger]

Originally Posted by showyourauto

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Lots of talk about re-bodied cars going around. Can somenone define re-body, where panel replacement ends and re-body begins? If one replaces the quarters, fenders, floor pans, trunk pan, hood and deck lid (all with GM original metal from donorcars) is this considered a re-body?

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The best definition of a rebody I have ever read comes from the 4th edition of SAAC World Registry of Cobras and GT40's (page 30). "Original/Rebodied A car having more than 50% of its original substructure or bodywork replaced, but not the main frame tubes or pieces carrying the serial stampings."

According to SAAC, an Air Car is a car built from scratch, starting out with no pieces carrying the original serial number stampings, and with no legitimate paperwork. An Air car has no claim to that VIN, either by legal ownership of major parts or paperwork.

A Reconstruction on the other hand, is a car that has been rebuilt substantially to original specifications (including replacement of main substructure or frame) but where some part of the original car existed prior to rebuild; also documentation paperwork exists (i.e. traceable bill of sale, title, registration, etc.).

If the ZL1 everyone is talking about were a Shelby, it would likely be considered an "Air Car" or a "Reconstruction" depending on the proof of VIN plate and paperwork.

These are definitions that would work well to adopt across the hobby in general. Hope that helps!

A rare car is severely damaged in a fire. The body is badly warped. yet the drive-train survives.

The car is entirely reconstructed with the same drivetrain, or at least the engine and transmission, which are original castings and not re-stamped. The vin on the block matches the car vin, and the vin legitimately represents the car as what it would appear.

The reconstruction either swaps the vin tags alone, or the vin tags with some of the sheet metal of the destroyed body still attached.

What amount of attached original sheet metal would qualify to make this legitimate?

What if the vin tag were destroyed, and a replica of that created- with or without a body change?

Should not there be a registry of restored cars in general to document the percentage of original and replacement parts to protect those placing an extra value on original parts, while permitting a wider range of reconstructions being honestly presented on the market?

[Stefano]

9 year old thread, is there a specific car you would like to discuss?