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Cute!!! But could you make it over 20 years? After all this stress I'm not sure I'll be around for another 30!!! If you can stand one more story I can give you the history on the traction bars. Was in a real stew one year shortly after we were married trying to figure out what to get Earl for Christmas besides the usual socks and tees. Finally came up with the idea of traction bars for the Deuce. I was so excited, I thought he'd never believe I would come up with that great a gift. Had no idea how or what to buy at the time though so contacted a friend of Earl's who pointed me in the right direction. Had them ordered and was anxiously awaiting their arrival. Couldn't wait to get them wrapped and under the tree. Earl was working a 3-11 shift that night and I waited up as usual for him to come home. He walked in the door and set a box on the floor with--you guessed it---TRACTION BARS!!!!!!!! I was so disappointed I think he ended up with socks and tees. Linda
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Interesting story on the traction bars Linda. I took the picture of the undersid because of those traction bars. It is very unusual for a deuce to get traction bars installed, and still retain the factory rear sway bar setup. The bars that are on this deuce are unique in that they bolt to the bottom of the leaf spring plate - as opposed to replacing the leaf spring plate. The majority of deuces have the traditional J-Hook style of traction bars installed, necessitating the removal of the sway bar unit. Just a FWIW.
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I noticed that in the photo marlin and couldn't see the j hooks but assumed they were there. who made these units that would allow you to retain the sway bar?
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Earl says he bought the traction bars at Auto Parts store on Gompers Avenue. I think this was Sam's Papa's store. Earl's uncle Jack Rising used to work for this store. Earl says there were brackets on the bars for the shocks to bolt to but he cut them off so he didn't have to take the sway bar off. Then he built a set for the neighbor's Nova. He says he put the traction bars on because he was tired of hearing the springs rap when he power shifted. One night we took the car to the Cadet down at Kittanning. After we had everyone's attention by driving through a few times, I got behind the wheel and took it through the parking lot. At the end of the lot where it was dark we did a quick driver swap and Earl burned it out of the lot and slapped it through the gears out on 422. Then we switched back and I drove it back through the parking lot so everyone thought I was the one horsing it. We had a lot of fun that night.
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One night we took the car to the Cadet down at Kittanning. After we had everyone's attention by driving through a few times, I got behind the wheel and took it through the parking lot. At the end of the lot where it was dark we did a quick driver swap and Earl burned it out of the lot and slapped it through the gears out on 422. Then we switched back and I drove it back through the parking lot so everyone thought I was the one horsing it. We had a lot of fun that night. [/ QUOTE ] That's absolutely priceless!! ![]() ![]() |
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Man, I would love to own this Deuce just because of the storys!
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Linda, Earl,
Speaking of more stories ....would you please tell us the story of the missing stripes? ![]()
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Bill, I don't think this version of the traction bars has the J-Hooks, just a mount below the spring plate. These bars are very unique, especially in the snubber area. They are not something you would find on a track car, but probably handled the wheel hop problem Linda was describing. We've all had the wheel hop issue at one time or another, sounds like the rear is going to flop out of the car
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As a Classic Car appraiser, my advice to you would be to thoroughly clean the vehicle and consign it to a high line auction within the next 6-9 months. The rare investment, numbers matching classic market operates on somewhat of a pyramid method. It begins at a broad base, with vehicles priced low and everyone buying, and (like a pyramid) as the prices rise, the buying pool shrinks. There have been two other “equalizations” in classic car history, and I believe the third one is inevitable. The first were the pre and post war cars, that were skyrocketing in the late seventies and early eighties. With the introduction of the muscle cars, that market dropped and never did recover.
The second was in the late eighties, when muscle car prices went through the roof. The equalization that occurred decimated the market, and it took several years to recover. I still remember the gentleman that bought the Fathom Blue LS6 convertible from a classic dealer for $150,000 in the late eighties. A few years later, he had no takers at $90,000. It took several years for him to finally recoup his money. A rule of thumb- when the investment vehicle market prices the product out of the hands of Joe Public and into the hands of only a small group of collectors, the equalization occurs. This is due to the fact that after the small group is done swapping and acquiring vehicles, there is no one left with the financial means to buy them. I believe we are approaching another equalization. The problem is, you have no advance warning- it just happens. The collectors that purchased at the lower end of the pyramid and sold at the high end are winners. Those who purchased at the top of the pyramid are going to suffer some, the degree of suffering being unknown. Those financially secure enough to sit on their cars can always weather the market fluctuation. When you hear comments that some cars sold for “stupid money”, that is a clue. The two partners that formed B/J were honorable and reputable men- you could always view these auction results as an indicator of the market-no more. The circus atmosphere and grandstanding has nullified B/J as an indicator of anything. If you want top dollar for your vehicle, I’d sell it in the near future. |
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