Needing reassurance on purchase - Page 16

@wot · #**151** 02-24-2006, 06:56 AM

I am not a 2nd gen z28 expert, but I have seen (and fabricated) plenty of non-original hangers, traction bars, etc., and those pics clearly show the work of a back yard mechanic.

**Rick H** · #**152** 02-24-2006, 07:18 AM

I believe that it is time for the 2 parties to resolve this issue. It is evident that things just do not add up and I for one am pretty convinced about this car.

I really do not think that anymore hashing, bashing and posting is going to help this matter. Let the 2 parties work it out.

Rick H.

CamarosRus · #**153** 02-24-2006, 07:23 AM

A few more misc pics detailing some of the cars issues.....

Rick, Have you drawn a conclusion yet re: originality of Norwood Z-28 trim if sway bar mounts were fabricated...

**Rick H** · #**154** 02-24-2006, 07:37 AM

Chuck,
I just can't put my finger on why the complete drivetrain is Z/28 (except for that obvious stamp). The trim tag build date is within the VIN number range but the body is not Z/28. The floor gas pedal attachment is wrong, the rear swaybar frame mounts are homemade, there are no rear bumper guards. I have a theory but really don't want to post it in fear of it becoming gospel.

The drivetrain points to a Z, but the body does not.

Something is escaping me and I really have to think of what I am missing.

As for the stamp, has anyone figured out why it is wrong besides the 2 missing numbers and possible location? Yes, I do know.

Rick H.

p.s. Chuck, you really need to learn how to resize your pictures, my computer screen isn't wide enough for some of your pics. LOL

RamAirDave · #**155** 02-24-2006, 07:48 AM

Im definately learning this evening. I know these cars "decently", but nowhere near an expert.

After reading through this thread, I was out in the garage checking the pedal cup bracket and rear sway bar brackets (two things I didnt know to look for before) on my 70 RS Z. They're there and untampered with. Didnt really have any doubts, but still nice to know for sure.

dave

**Late BrakeU2** · #**156** 02-24-2006, 08:01 AM

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Im definately learning this evening. I know these cars "decently", but nowhere near an expert.

After reading through this thread, I was out in the garage checking the pedal cup bracket and rear sway bar brackets (two things I didnt know to look for before) on my 70 RS Z. They're there and untampered with. Didnt really have any doubts, but still nice to know for sure.

dave

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Here's the orginal thread that got the party started-
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...8/fpart/1/vc/1

BTW what do I win?

CamarosRus · #**157** 02-24-2006, 08:54 AM

Rick, Sorry about large pics......I have many, many pics and alot of the older ones, never got edited and resized.
How about the possibility that the drivetrain, trim tag, and vin tag got moved to a non sway bar/non Z body.....I missed the info if firewall VIN, matches the dash VIN.
Has GRUSUM inspected entire left side of block looking for (any) VIN stamping..........as Ive previously written I found mine between soft plugs......however if in car, I might not have ever seen.
I have not yet determined why Block partial VIN is wrong, but I strongly believe it was not NORWOOD applied...

**THNDER** · #**158** 02-24-2006, 09:27 AM

Anyone ever catch the "400" ballancer in the ebay pics?

CamarosRus · #**159** 02-24-2006, 10:14 AM

Mike S. (aka THNDER) has a LEGENDS award winning 70 Z-28 and is one of the 2nd Gen judges for the ACA Camaro Nationals at Carlisle. As well he heads up the Gateway Camaro Club, which hosted the outdoor show at SCR8.
I did not catch the balancer Mike....is it the indented area having to do with balancing ??????? This does not bode well for car having ORIGINAL CTB engine?????

**Hotrodpaul** · #**160** 02-24-2006, 03:26 PM

This looks to be a non original LT-1 engine. The block appears to be from a 70 Z since the stamp looks legit but with a 400 balancer I would guess the internals are based around an externally balanced 383 stroker (3.75" stroke vs 3.48" stroke) and a cast iron crank. I would also check the flywheel to verify the imbalance weight as well. If a VIN is found on the bellhousing flange my guess is that it will not match the car, and that is why the partial VIN was stamped on the pad to make it "Numbers Matching".

Oddly, the trim tag and rivets look original......

Paul

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